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On 8/7/2018 at 2:36 AM, coinman_23885 said:

Did they at least give it a star for semi-PL fields if it didn't make a full designation?  Awarding a star for a just miss coin is very common.

they did not.

I had a friend take it to the ANA in Philly and asked Mark if the coin was PL. He said neither side was PL, no further explanation. It's being sent off for a few more sets of eyes to look at it. It might end up heading over to ANACS to see if they will grade it with the designation. 

23 minutes ago, DWLange said:

Our graders do look for things like PL, FB, FBL, etc. automatically as part of the grading process. The bar for getting PL with most coin types is pretty high, and it has to apply to both sides of the coin. The example illustrated does have distracting die polishing lines. These don't preclude it from getting a PL designation, but they also don't weigh in its favor.

Were you able to view the video in the original post? I'm curious of your opinions based upon the video. It's in line to head to the grading room as of this morning. 

On 5/20/2018 at 8:31 PM, WoodenJefferson said:

Our resident PL expert Physicsfan appears to be on hiatus, I trust robec's opinion also, so probably a yes.

Yes, Robec was nice enough to contact him for me and he's seen the video and his response was 

"Wow, that is by far the most PL copper Wheat I've ever seen. Your pictures in the GTG thread aren't convincing (I would have guessed that the obverse was a strong semi-prooflike, and the reverse wasn't as strong - I probably would have guessed it may earn a Star). 

However, your video is quite convincing. The obverse in the video looks slightly weaker than the reverse, but still should qualify for PL based on what I'm seeing. 

What I've found after a few years of submitting PL coins raw.... NGC doesn't always really consider an unusual series for PL. They'll grade the coin accurately, but they don't necessarily think to call it PL. I've questioned them about this (and not just the lowly folk... I've talked to David Lange and Mark Salzberg directly about this). It's just so esoteric that the graders don't even think to include it."

On 5/22/2018 at 11:17 PM, coinman1794 said:

I did find the reverse video, thanks!

The call is going to be very close, as it still seems a little bit borderline. The mirrors have to be unbroken with consistent reflectivity. The angle of the video is not adequate for examination, as many semi-PL coins will reflect text in that way. The reverse looks a little bit stronger. I can't tell if it the obverse has areas where frosty starbursting interrupts the reflection in spots. 

As of a couple years ago, there had been only 1 PL bronze Lincoln cent certified, so NGC is very hard on them.

I've owned two NGC PL Lincolns. Those were from 2004 and 2007. The population isn't very big for PL Memorials, but they are non existent for Wheats, at least copper ones. 

It's been scanned into the system so hopefully by weeks end we have an answer. 

This recently came back from NGC as a MS66RD. I was hoping for a MS66RDPL. It's currently on it's way back to NGC for Designation review to get the PL added... 

What do you think? Here's a link to a video of the coin on my Instagram page