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Mike - too much information!!! On the bidding of course.

The OPs pattern is very nice. Didn’t mean to detract from it.

Just another take off of the Australian Holey Dollar of 1813 or others that may have preceded it. The question is - where is the dump? 30 Sep 1813 - 'holey dollar' and 'dump' coins The holey dollar' and 'dump' coins became legal tender in New South Wales by a proclamation issued by Governor Macquarie to address the acute shortage of coinage in the colony, the British authorities had arranged with the Directors of the East India Company that £10,000 worth of dollars be purchased in India and shipped to NSW. To make available coins and ensure that they remained in the colony, Macquarie commissioned convicted forger William Henshall to cut the center (the dump) out of each coin and stamp them with NSW. The smaller dump was worth fifteen pence and the larger holey dollar was worth five shillings. Although these coins became legal tender on 30 September they were not available for general issue until January 1814. Sources:National Museum of Australia. (2021). Holey dollar; The Royal Australian Mint. Australian coins – a fascinating history

It depends how you slice and dice it. World? Modern or ancient? Actual mint or just location. Legally minted I hope.

Do you know what it went for?

Rats - never even looked. The last few auctions didn’t hold much of interest for me, but I would of bid on that book as well.

By adding something a little different to your order. This is a low cost, but interesting, addition that is in not so great shape. It is from the Austrian partition of Poland.

I saw that they would be there, so they will be accepting submissions - but no on-site grading I believe.

Some Central banks (Governments) maybe - not by the populace and not around the world.

1907 they weren’t universally accepted or known. Even in the forties during World War II, some flight crews (Army Air Corp) were given sovereigns and (for QA - even a rooster) in escape kits in case they were shot down behind enemy lines. This was because they were much better recognized than U.S. gold at the time. These kits were produced by the Navy in Norfolk, Virginia.

2nd South African newbie in a week. Welcome to the forum.

Don’t be discourage, once you know that the vast majority of what is on the internet and YouTube is complete garbage and what the politicians and government tell you is just a load of …., then you can start fresh. Pick up a copy of Whitman’s cherry-pickers guide and start enjoying collecting and hunting again. Or forget the varieties and errors and start a type or comprehensive collection. Many was to play - just don’t expect to become rich from it.

I still disagree, nominal value or no nominal value on the coin isn’t relevant to being technically protected from counterfeiting.

By the way, welcome to the NGC forum ZAR. Glad to have you here.

I disagree Roger, the sovereigns do have a standard legal tender value of one pound, but no one would sell them at that price because the gold content value is much higher. Sovereigns circulated as legal tender coins for over a century. That is the modern sovereign and does not count the hammered sovereigns which are much older. Just because a coin does not state a denomination on them, does not make them a token or bullion coin. Sovereigns became bullion in England circa 1917 when they were not released for circulation any longer and were used strictly to pay war debts. They did still circulate outside England for some years after England stopped producing them for circulation. Sovereigns were also legal tender in Portugal even though Portugal was not part of the British empire. The world accepted the sovereign as circulated legal tender coins and later as bullion. The below book, is an excellent first read on the subject. Many others out here as well:

Exactly.

Yep

What a great idea - learn about the coins, their place in history and how they were used instead of just, how much they are worth. Education makes this hobby Soooooo much more interesting,

So Kurt, what do you think of the ANS? And thank you for your thoughts on the new position. I missed some of the conversation.

concerning the proposal for the new position, I would expect some good input from Kurt. I did not see or hear about him being ousted. What is that all about - if I couldn’t guess?

For one thing, politics aside, I would like to hear about the presentation or discussion about this new position. I heard most of it, but the person/s speaking (Ken and Kenny) microphone was a bit too far away to hear everything.

I attended virtually.

That’s it for the moment. I am hoping that others that attended or viewed will chime in. the community manager is a new proposed full time staff position that would have as part of their duties be involved with outreach, videos, and social media. It would enhance visibility to those who normally do not see the ANA when searching on the internet. A nigher profile in other words. that is just a bit of it. I did not catch the whole discussion. I would like to hear from those who attended in person.

Interesting ANA Board of Governors meeting today. I thought the idea of a community manager is a good one.

One man’s junk is another man’s treasure…. It’s all history baby! 👀