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Birthdays and Battles in the Registry Backwater

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Revenant

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The family and I celebrate my birthday this week / this weekend, and, this year, unlike last year, neither kid is in the hospital, currently - and I'll take the win. However, we do now know that Sam's in-patient time is going to start on November the 13th. So there's that to "look forward" to.

I now have my historical blurb sections on 4 of my 8 Austral coins written or at least mostly written - these things tend to go through revisions over time and I'm still very much working on them.

For my birthday, Shandy got me an MS66 Rhodesian 6 Pence coin from 1955 (you may note that this is also one of my birthyear set years that I worked on with my step-father).

Now, if you want the funny on this, I'd thought this coin had a turtle on the back of it and that's one of the reasons I put Shandy onto it. I thought it would be a fun addition to the set of turtle coins I'm now unofficially, officially, building. 

It turns out I was wrong. It has a cougar / mountain lion on the back of it. 

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The FIJI 6 pence from this period has a turtle on it.

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So... That's a little funny... they're both 6 pence coins, from the 1950s and have Elizabeth II on the front. I buy Rhodesian coins a lot and I got myself confused. lol Often wrong. Rarely in doubt. 

But I'm still happy to have the coin. This may end up being the start of an Elizabeth II, Federation of Rhodesia an Nyasaland type set, which, let's be honest, we all know was probably coming at some point. lol 

But this has Shandy encouraging me to get the Fiji 6 pence and a Rhodesian 3 pence to pair with the 6 pence. lol So maybe I fail upward? :takeit:

I could definitely see the turtle set(s) / turtle coins and a Rhodesian type set being the focus of my coin collecting efforts next year now that the Rhodesian pennies, Rhodesian half pennies, and the 500 Lire set are all basically done.

On that note, Shandy said jokingly that "all of your sets (or at least the ones I am really into and talk about) are either very full and complete or very hard to find coins for." Hmmm.... hm How about that, folks? lol 

In the course of our conversation, it came up that the same seller that we've bought a lot of these Rhodesian coins from has just a lot of coins from different places and years and just a lot of cool, random old stuff. I made the comment to her, "Ya know, if you ever see something of his that looks interesting, even if it isn't something I'm collecting but you think it's cool and I'll enjoy it, you can go for it and surprise me." I'm not saying I'd want her to buy just anything or from anyone, but when it's a seller we've bought from a lot that offers generally reasonable prices, I'm down to let her take some risks on her own.

Speaking of coins that are hard to find, I did manage to find a 1990, 1000 Austral coin that looks pretty good (advertised as uncirc, but I have a hard time telling sometimes with the old steel / aluminum coins) and that may end up getting sent in for grading next year to add to the Austral set. I need to find the 100 Austral and the 500 Austral to try to complete that set.

Doing all of this work and making a banner image for the 10L set recently also got me looking at some modern Italian coins and I ended up picking up a 1953 and 1954 10 Lire coin for that set. They're both pretty big wins and additions to the set and they put me ahead of the guy that beat me in the 10 Lire category last year. Those two coins are enough to over-come the 1951 he has in that set. He had another coin in his set that had his point total up to 106 but 24 hours after I added my new coins, he removed the other coin he'd had in his set. I'm not sure if the two events are related but the timing was interesting. It'll be interesting to see if he comes back later this month or next year and we slap it out over the category a little. 

It's very funny in the registry to have sets like the Morgan dollars where there are literally thousands of sets and building a set that gets anywhere near the top can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and then simultaneously to have quiet little, "backwater," modern categories where a couple of guys can "slap it out" a little with 10% complete sets for a couple of hundred bucks. lol 

That's all from me for now. There will be more forthcoming... lol 

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Coinbuf

I like both, it is fun to have a highly ranked highly collected series set, and also fun to fly under the radar with some sets.   Best of luck with your sets, just 12 days left as I write this reply.   And best wishes for Sam's upcoming in-patient time.

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It's very funny in the registry to have sets like the Morgan dollars where there are literally thousands of sets and building a set that gets anywhere near the top can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and then simultaneously to have quiet little, "backwater," modern categories where a couple of guys can "slap it out" a little with 10% complete sets for a couple of hundred bucks.  

Have you been seeing an increase in participation with your "backwater" sets? I have. It's not been a rapid increase, but the number of participants in pretty much all of my sets has double, tripled, or more in the past 1-2 years. In some sets there were maybe 2-4 of us now, 10-20+. An increase was not unexpected but I was a little surprised by the number of new sets. 

I've also noticed a sharp increase in the number of World coins in PCGS slabs, I'm not sure if this is due to perceived turnaround times, U.S. collectors getting priced out, sellers seeing an opportunity, etc.. As you can guess most have asking prices that are completely bonkers and are sitting there rotting. I guess I don't get why people think there is a premium for PCGS World coins, especially when they don't have a registry/sets to support most of these coins. 

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For my birthday, Shandy got me an MS66 Rhodesian 6 Pence coin from 1955

Hmm, this coin sounds familiar and I'm not seeing the one I was looking at on ebay anymore. hm You may have some additional competition in that type set my friend. :slapfight:

Hoping all goes smoothly with Sam's upcoming in-patient, and that you're all out of there as quickly as possible. 

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On 10/19/2023 at 8:59 PM, Coinbuf said:

I like both, it is fun to have a highly ranked highly collected series set, and also fun to fly under the radar with some sets.   Best of luck with your sets, just 12 days left as I write this reply.   And best wishes for Sam's upcoming in-patient time.

Short of them quietly sitting on some coins in the background I think I pretty much sniped them for this year by buying the only two coins available on eBay that had significant point values attached to them. Yeah. They could probably get several things on very short order and pull ahead of me, but I'd be surprised. If they decide to fight me for it I imagine it will be next year. lol All in good fun though. I get to collect an extra scalp / certificate for Shandy this year. lol 

I am expecting and hoping for a fairly chill week in the hospital on an ICP monitor ending in an in-and-out shunt revision. I could be wrong, but I'm telling myself it will be RELATIVELY easy.

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On 10/20/2023 at 5:52 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Have you been seeing an increase in participation with your "backwater" sets? I have. It's not been a rapid increase, but the number of participants in pretty much all of my sets has double, tripled, or more in the past 1-2 years. In some sets there were maybe 2-4 of us now, 10-20+. An increase was not unexpected but I was a little surprised by the number of new sets. 

I've also noticed a sharp increase in the number of World coins in PCGS slabs, I'm not sure if this is due to perceived turnaround times, U.S. collectors getting priced out, sellers seeing an opportunity, etc.. As you can guess most have asking prices that are completely bonkers and are sitting there rotting. I guess I don't get why people think there is a premium for PCGS World coins, especially when they don't have a registry/sets to support most of these coins. 

I don't pay attention to PCGS coins at all just because I don't like buying them because my artist brain likes for things to match and visually seeing a mix of slabs is like nails on a chalkboard for me. You're talking to someone that paid over $100 in credits to reholder a gold set just so all the slabs would look the same.

Have I seen an increase in participation? I guess it depends on what set you mean. In the 10G set I think I was THE first set created and for a while there were under 5 sets. Now there's over 30 sets competing. In the modern Italian and other sets I participate in? No. Zimbabwe - it's still just me and Xano, even after I made a splash by winning a major award with it. 5 Lire set? - I'm the only set. 10 Lire set? - Me and 2 other people. 200L Set? - I'm the only set. 500L type set? - I'm the only set. 500L date set? - me against 1 other person with 1 coin. Austral set? - Only me. Peso convertible set? - Me against 1 person with 1 coin.

Yeah... I'm seeing more of these things show up on eBay as graded coins. But in a lot of areas that is not translating into Registry sets.

On 10/20/2023 at 5:52 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Hmm, this coin sounds familiar and I'm not seeing the one I was looking at on ebay anymore. hm You may have some additional competition in that type set my friend. :slapfight:

Hoping all goes smoothly with Sam's upcoming in-patient, and that you're all out of there as quickly as possible. 

I mean... you say that... but... I still don't see you with a Zimbabwe type set, or a penny set... or a half penny set... hm You're in the game on the notes side but you have not made an appearance on the coin side. lol 

Remind me what your mailing address is sometime soon. Maybe I can send you some of my extra Zimbabwe type coins and you can join me and Xano. lol 

I'll get that type set started soon, just so you can dream of taking shots at me. ;)

 

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On 10/20/2023 at 10:12 AM, Revenant said:

I mean... you say that... but... I still don't see you with a Zimbabwe type set, or a penny set... or a half penny set... hm You're in the game on the notes side but you have not made an appearance on the coin side. lol 

Remind me what your mailing address is sometime soon. Maybe I can send you some of my extra Zimbabwe type coins and you can join me and Xano. lol 

I'll get that type set started soon, just so you can dream of taking shots at me.

I'm lying in wait :ph34r:, at least till after the end of the year, before I create any Rhodesian sets. Then. :sumo: I have a few Rh coins, probably around a dozen in NGC plastic, but they are pretty spread out across all periods and denominations, my Rh coins are an eclectic lot and are a long way from being a cohesive set. I could probably muster up a Federation type set with what I have now and what I can pick up in the next year, but anything beyond that I'm not ready. Maybe it will be 2 years before I start a new set, or I might feel compelled to start a new set sooner depending on what happens. I don't think there is a Federation type set at the moment so I'll have to request that when the time comes, I'm not sure that they would even go for a type set from that period. We'll see I guess. 

On 10/20/2023 at 10:12 AM, Revenant said:

I don't pay attention to PCGS coins at all just because I don't like buying them because my artist brain likes for things to match and visually seeing a mix of slabs is like nails on a chalkboard for me. You're talking to someone that paid over $100 in credits to reholder a gold set just so all the slabs would look the same.

I usually take a look at PCGS coins once in a while to see if there are any deals to be had or coins I like at the right price. I'll cross them if I'm building a registry set, if not, then they stay in the plastic they arrived in. 

On 10/20/2023 at 10:12 AM, Revenant said:

Have I seen an increase in participation? I guess it depends on what set you mean. In the 10G set I think I was THE first set created and for a while there were under 5 sets. Now there's over 30 sets competing. In the modern Italian and other sets I participate in? No. Zimbabwe - it's still just me and Xano, even after I made a splash by winning a major award with it. 5 Lire set? - I'm the only set. 10 Lire set? - Me and 2 other people. 200L Set? - I'm the only set. 500L type set? - I'm the only set. 500L date set? - me against 1 other person with 1 coin. Austral set? - Only me. Peso convertible set? - Me against 1 person with 1 coin.

Hmm, it is opposite for me, a lot more participants in most categories. Of course, I have a mainly NCLT sets going at the moment and that's probably what's driving some or most of this. My standard/circulating coinage sets have not seen as much growth, but still more than what you're describing. 

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On 10/20/2023 at 10:02 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Hmm, it is opposite for me, a lot more participants in most categories. Of course, I have a mainly NCLT sets going at the moment and that's probably what's driving some or most of this. My standard/circulating coinage sets have not seen as much growth, but still more than what you're describing. 

Yeah. World NCLT is a very different market than Modern World circulating coinage.

On 10/20/2023 at 10:02 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

I usually take a look at PCGS coins once in a while to see if there are any deals to be had or coins I like at the right price. I'll cross them if I'm building a registry set, if not, then they stay in the plastic they arrived in.

With a lot of what I've been playing with the last few years, the grading fee is 50-75% of the cost I'm paying. So that model just absolutely does not work for me, lol

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