A Silver Crown of Ireland

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jgenn

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There may not be a true silver crown of an independent Ireland. The closest that I have uncovered would be the silver crown, presumably issued by the Catholic Confederacy of Kilkenny, in 1642-43, although the few examples that appear in auction sales appear to be less than 25g in weight.  These coins are also quite rare.  The next closest example of an Irish silver crown, which I was able to acquire, might just be the "Ormond" crown of the same time (1643-1644), issued by the Earl of Ormond, James Butler, commander of the royalist army in Ireland.  At least it is a silver crown sized coin (my example is 29.71g), most likely minted in Dublin, and during the time when there was an independent government that controlled two-thirds of the island.  This brief period of independence would end in 1653 with the occupation and annexation of Ireland by the Commonwealth of England.
 
Obverse design, crowned CR for King Charles I.  Reverse V with a small S above for denomination of 5 shillings.

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At F12 it's certainly no gem but the nice thing about this design is that there are no fine details that get lost with heavy circulation.

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It's a nice, simple design that looks good even in F12.  There's something to be said for a simple design like that, I have to say.  I've recently began rebuilding my early East German collection that I had to sell for a car repair when I was finishing up my Ed.D.  Those designs are quite simple, but I find them very appealing in their simplicity.  I feel the exact same way about your Irish Crown, Jack.

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Very nice coin and a very interesting/complex period in history. I have only ever seen one example 'in person' but it will come as no surprise that I have some Ormonde sixpences somewhere!

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Jack

There is something to be said for your winning set that does not include high grades and the lowest graded coin in Very-Fine condition being a Top-Pop. Congratulations on your Potosi Mint 8-reales set winning the Best Presented award.

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On 1/14/2022 at 10:21 AM, coinsbygary said:

Jack

There is something to be said for your winning set that does not include high grades and the lowest graded coin in Very-Fine condition being a Top-Pop. Congratulations on your Potosi Mint 8-reales set winning the Best Presented award.

Thank you Gary!  It is a rather humble set, compared to my Mexico City type set, for example.  However, I did make some effort to take decent photos and tried to write something of interest about each coin and where I acquired it from.  This is perhaps my one set where all of the coins were purchased and submitted as raw coins.  I appreciate that the NGC award selection team has broad criteria in their choices.

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...being an ireland coin collector myself, i can sympathise with ur efforts to fit in an example from independent ireland in ur world crown collection...ireland coin issues just r not very compatible with broad spectrum type sets due to their limited range of denominations n short time spans...the confederation period does lend some flexibility fortunately...just be glad u r not trying to locate an independent ireland issue in gold, maybe two pieces known if u count the pistols....but congrats on ur V s coin, nice decent orig example.....

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