Well, Xan gave me my answer... or part of it anyway. lol

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Revenant

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Xan Chamberlain must have gotten a box in the mail yesterday.

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This set popped up last night with just one coin and now the other 7 coins from that submission that got added to the census about 2 weeks ago have been added. It also looks like he has a $2 coin that popped up in the census the following week when my coins were added.But I'm not seeing in his set (yet, anyway) a 1999 10C in MS64 or an older-type $1 coin that popped up in the census the same week as my coins and that $2 coin. What I'm seeing in our two sets only accounts for 22 of the 25-27 MS coins that I think have been added to the Zimbabwe census in about the last 6 months. And if I remember right, some of the others were $5 coins and it wouldn't really make sense to me for him to send in two of those in such a short span of time - again, not saying that he didn't. I don't have nearly all the facts. I'm just thinking with my gut here. Add in the fact that there were MS graded coins out there before April 2021 and someone submitted the MS65 10C that I have... there's someone else, out there, right?

So, I think there is still some mystery to dig into in that I think there's a third person getting these graded. It's either that, or Xan submitted another 2-coin submission a while back (or a submission with 2 Z coins) and then got 2-3 more graded about a week after this coin going group and those coins hit the census with mine, and then there was a 1 coin submission that hit the census on 10/5 with a single 1983 cent. I'm not saying it is impossible but it would be odd to me to see someone send in 3 small submissions in the space of a month and about 4 in about 6 months for the same country.

I guess I'll see if a 1999 10C coin, a 1983 Cent, or one of these other new-to-the census coins hit Xan's set in the next couple of weeks and if the census keeps going up.

So there is officially a little competition and a little life in that category now.

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I wonder if he used part of his 2020 grading credit to do this just like I did.

Especially given the timing, I wonder if he got the idea for this from me and I'm wondering if he'll read this...

It's always funny to think about. lol

I wonder if he'll chime in or drop me a line / a message and shed some light on it for me. lol

He collects some older Rhodesian Coins but I don't see that he participates on the PMG side with the notes. 

I wonder what brings him into it and why he decided to go down this road. I wonder if there could be some fun chats about it.

But, I think the same thing about Adrian123456, and he seems to prefer to watch in silence too.

Adrian has a fantastic, nearly complete variety set of the 2003 Emergency Bearer Checks (P-21 to P-23) that I think is one of the more impressive sets in the PMG Zimbabwe Registry - getting all of those varieties is not easy and he's had to compromise on grade on some of the type-a's even though the notes themselves still look quite nice in his scans - or maybe he uses PMG's scans. I'm not sure there.

I wonder if Adrian could be submitter #3, but I think he'd list / register his if he were... 

You guys should talk to me. lol This could be fun. lol Just talk to Mike. He can attest - I'm not crazy! :insane: 

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It looks like the identity of your mysterious competitor has finally been revealed, William!!! Xan's fighting you in your arena, to make a reference to my dearest Faustina.  But in all seriousness, there seems to be more activity in many areas of the World Coin Registry than there were in previous years.  I know that there are more players in the Ottoman Nickel Para sets that I used to compete it.  I keep my sets up there for posterity even though I'm officially retired from competitive collecting (and Ottoman coinage) and I do check those areas of the Registry out from time to time......though I'm not tempted to get back into that arena again.  It's been interesting to see more activity in those areas and it's interesting to see it in your area of specialty as well.  I wonder what's driving it.....but I think it's wonderful to see people pursuing more diverse collecting interest than they used to.  For the record, I'll always be cheering for Team William in the Zimbabwe arena!!!

~Tom

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...there's also the possibility that those 1 n 2 coin increases in the Z census r not from 1 n 2 coin submissions...they could be part of a 10-20-40 etc coin submission n u r just seeing the Z coins?....as for other registrants being quiet, i personally don't find that unusual, in the 30 plus registry  categories i'm active in i have not once had any dialogue with any of the other registrants in any of the categories....

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On 10/9/2021 at 11:50 PM, zadok said:

for other registrants being quiet, i personally don't find that unusual, in the 30 plus registry  categories i'm active in i have not once had any dialogue with any of the other registrants in any of the categories....

I didn't say it was unusual. I just think it'd be fun to have a conversation.

That bit about the z coins being part of large submissions I had considered, but I still think that explanation lends itself more to more people and / or dealers submitting.

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Just talk to Mike. He can attest - I'm not crazy!  :insane:

hm....... JK. William is a blast to chat with!

It would be more fun if individuals were more active within registry sets, heck, bring it to the boards don't be shy. :shy: I've gone back and forth with some of my fellow set collectors, I've sold and bought coins and traded information with some of them, but for the most part they don't seem to be that interested in carrying out a conversation or chatting in depth about a series. More just trying to get the next coin. I don't know if the silence is more of a strategy for people or if they just don't want to talk but I've gotten over both and it's way more enjoyable.

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On 10/10/2021 at 7:54 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

I've gone back and forth with some of my fellow set collectors, I've sold and bought coins and traded information with some of them, but for the most part they don't seem to be that interested in carrying out a conversation or chatting in depth about a series. More just trying to get the next coin. I don't know if the silence is more of a strategy for people or if they just don't want to talk but I've gotten over both and it's way more enjoyable

Personally I think chatting with you has made the last year of working on the Zimbabwean note set much more enjoyable and I think more participation and a greater sense of community could be great, but I am largely resigned to what is. lol I don't expect things to change. But I'm still going to poke them. :baiting:

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i agree with both u n fenntucky's comments on chatting, but u need to remember u two guys have a positive win-win style camaraderie not exactly what one finds on the forum most of the time n i applaud u both for it, it adds worthwhile meaning to both of ur collecting efforts, sort of a fox-hole relationship....i believe the lack of chattiness that is found on the registry sets is mostly due to security n privacy concerns coupled with people just pre-occupied with everything else thats going on in their lives n the world around them...frankly im amazed that u have the time n energy left over from ur young life to raise ur family, try to stay economically n medically afloat n still be able to compile award winning collections...my hat is off to u.....

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On 10/10/2021 at 12:25 PM, zadok said:

frankly im amazed that u have the time n energy left over from ur young life to raise ur family, try to stay economically n medically afloat n still be able to compile award winning collections...my hat is off to u.....

A lot of it for me anyway is powered by slow periods at work. I get much less active when and if I catch a big project. Since I work from home I save time on commutes and get to sneak in the odd chore and laundry. And sometimes it's just good for the kids to play independently- I'm not a helicopter parent. 

I draft many of my journals on my phone's notepad - extra typos!

Other than that it happens when the kids are in bed, during naps and at night - I stay up too late trying to belong to myself for a while.

Right now I'm on my phone on the floor while Sam falls asleep in his crib for afternoon nap.

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On 10/10/2021 at 1:38 PM, Revenant said:

A lot of it for me anyway is powered by slow periods at work. I get much less active when and if I catch a big project. Since I work from home I save time on commutes and get to sneak in the odd chore and laundry. And sometimes it's just good for the kids to play independently- I'm not a helicopter parent. 

I draft many of my journals on my phone's notepad - extra typos!

Other than that it happens when the kids are in bed, during naps and at night - I stay up too late trying to belong to myself for a while.

Right now I'm on my phone on the floor while Sam falls asleep in his crib for afternoon nap.

sounds like a plan....

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On 10/10/2021 at 4:24 AM, Revenant said:

I didn't say it was unusual. I just think it'd be fun to have a conversation.

Ehh maybe, like most I have never had much of any discourse with any of the other registry participants ; well except you William and the few times we have conversed on the 1932 sets.   The only other registry set member (in my areas or sets I compete in) is the one guy that was rather upset when I took over first place in the 1940 year set last year.   He started a thread on why his set had been overtaken and why, which turned out to be the CAC points.   And while he was not hostile per se the tone of his posts seemed rather ticked and much more focused on putting me in my place as opposed to any "fun" discussion, at least most comments seemed that way to me.

Like you I think it would be rather fun to have some interesting conversations with other members that participate in the registry be it the competitive or custom sets.   But as Mike pointed out it seems that very few are interested in any sort of comradery or communication.

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On 10/11/2021 at 4:48 PM, Coinbuf said:

Ehh maybe, like most I have never had much of any discourse with any of the other registry participants ; well except you William and the few times we have conversed on the 1932 sets.   The only other registry set member (in my areas or sets I compete in) is the one guy that was rather upset when I took over first place in the 1940 year set last year.   He started a thread on why his set had been overtaken and why, which turned out to be the CAC points.   And while he was not hostile per se the tone of his posts seemed rather ticked and much more focused on putting me in my place as opposed to any "fun" discussion, at least most comments seemed that way to me.

Like you I think it would be rather fun to have some interesting conversations with other members that participate in the registry be it the competitive or custom sets.   But as Mike pointed out it seems that very few are interested in any sort of comradery or communication.

...pretty much echos my experiences as well, so many varied reasons for registrants to avoid discourse its diff to pin down....a large part of it is security n privacy, n just plain distrust...these days many people do not even know the name of their next door neighbors, couple that with all the online hacking n folks just plain reticent to divulge any public info or exposure...n then theres the competitive part of becoming palsy walsy with the person trying to take ur spot on the registry, e.g. look at all the questions William has bout the new Z registrant competitor, sort of like always looking over ur shoulder....of course this is just a hobby n not life or death issues, unless u outbid me on that one particular coin im looking for :) , i guess the camaraderie is best found at local coin club show n tell nites.....

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On 10/11/2021 at 3:48 PM, Coinbuf said:

  The only other registry set member (in my areas or sets I compete in) is the one guy that was rather upset when I took over first place in the 1940 year set last year.   He started a thread on why his set had been overtaken and why, which turned out to be the CAC points.   And while he was not hostile per se the tone of his posts seemed rather ticked and much more focused on putting me in my place as opposed to any "fun" discussion, at least most comments seemed that way to me.

Yup... I saw all that... it's unfortunate that that is so often how it seems to be, and honestly, Reading between the lines, I don't think it would be much different here. But it is a shame that it's that way.

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On 10/11/2021 at 5:22 PM, zadok said:

then theres the competitive part of becoming palsy walsy with the person trying to take ur spot on the registry, e.g. look at all the questions William has bout the new Z registrant competitor, sort of like always looking over ur shoulder....of course this is just a hobby n not life or death issues, unless u outbid me on that one particular coin im looking for :) , i guess the camaraderie is best found at local coin club show n tell nites.....

It kind of depends on what you're dealing with. Mike and I have used it to avoid each other in auctions a few times I think. But what we overlap on isn't rare so it's easy to just wait for the next one in most cases

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On 10/11/2021 at 7:22 PM, Revenant said:

Mike and I have used it to avoid each other in auctions a few times I think. But what we overlap on isn't rare so it's easy to just wait for the next one in most cases

Yep, and if one of us was to out bid the other the looser would never let the winner here the end of it. lol I'm going to pass on that abuse. lol 

 

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