? do you think this 1868 shield nickel is worth a punt ?

[dooly]

Me again

 

what do you think.. the seller deals in coins but has made no mention of the errors on the coin

 

to my untrained eyes this looks like a RPD F-18 .. and he wants $34.99 for it what do you all think .. is it worth a punt ??

 

 

is there anyone out there who knows which rev: the RPD F-18 should have IIa ?

 

 

[IGWT]

I agree that the coin is F-18 (yes, F-18 has rev. IIa). I see VF details (closer to a 30 than to a 20), and I wouldn't be surprised if the coin has been cleaned. CDN buy/sell for a VF is $28/$31.

[dooly]

I agree that the coin is F-18 (yes, F-18 has rev. IIa). I see VF details (closer to a 30 than to a 20), and I wouldn't be surprised if the coin has been cleaned. CDN buy/sell for a VF is $28/$31.

 

Wahooo ! i got one right finaly

 

thanks IGWT for all the help as you can see its paying off

[MarkFeld]

I agree that the coin is F-18 (yes, F-18 has rev. IIa). I see VF details (closer to a 30 than to a 20), and I wouldn't be surprised if the coin has been cleaned. CDN buy/sell for a VF is $28/$31.

I have no clue about the "F-18" stuff - is that some type of fighter plane? In any event, for whatever difference it might make, I am almost certain that the coin has been cleaned.

[MunkyMan95]

I agree with Mark, doesn't seem very original to me either.

[dooly]

I agree that the coin is F-18 (yes, F-18 has rev. IIa). I see VF details (closer to a 30 than to a 20), and I wouldn't be surprised if the coin has been cleaned. CDN buy/sell for a VF is $28/$31.

I have no clue about the "F-18" stuff - is that some type of fighter plane? In any event, for whatever difference it might make, I am almost certain that the coin has been cleaned.

 

Hi Mark

I have put my bid in on the 68 and it was accsepted

 

the F-18 is the number given for the error listed in The Shield Five Cent Series book by E. Fletcher (page 66)

 

 

i gave $34 for it which i dont think is over the top for a URS-4 coin (5-8 Known)

its a shame it is probably cleaned but it will do until i find a better one which i can NGC

 

here is the link:-

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...p;rd=1&rd=1

[IGWT]

I agree that the coin is F-18 (yes, F-18 has rev. IIa). I see VF details (closer to a 30 than to a 20), and I wouldn't be surprised if the coin has been cleaned. CDN buy/sell for a VF is $28/$31.

I have no clue about the "F-18" stuff - is that some type of fighter plane? In any event, for whatever difference it might make, I am almost certain that the coin has been cleaned.

 

"I wouldn't be surprised" is IGWT-speak for "almost certain." The "F" refers to Ed Fletcher, who catalogued and assigned numbers to Shield 5c varieties in The Shield Five Cent Series: A Comprehensive Listing of Known Varieties (1994).

 

Edited to add: Dooly - You should realize that the URS figures are rough estimates made more than 10 years ago. They almost certainly don't include, for example, the coin that you just purchased . . . or any others that are waiting to be found. That said, congratulations on a nice find!

[rrantique]

Great find Wayne , congrats

[skippy]

Fletcher numbers below 100 are reverse IIa, over 100 are reverse IIb.

 

I agree with the advice you have previously received.

 

If you want a slice of semi-immortality, you could arrange to send me the coin for photography and get listed in my SNV (Shield Nickel Viewer) Reference as a contributor. This variety does not yet appear in SNV.

 

Write to me here if interested: howard@sci1.com

[dooly]

Fletcher numbers below 100 are reverse IIa, over 100 are reverse IIb.

 

I agree with the advice you have previously received.

 

If you want a slice of semi-immortality, you could arrange to send me the coin for photography and get listed in my SNV (Shield Nickel Viewer) Reference as a contributor. This variety does not yet appear in SNV.

 

Write to me here if interested: howard@sci1.com

 

Hi Skippy i was wondering where you were

 

Wahay I WOULD LOVE TO SEND IT FOR THE SNV

o what a happy bunny i am..

i also have a 1868 F-40 in need of some conservation and a 1872 F-122 MS62

 

[physics-fan3.14]

I agree that the coin is F-18 (yes, F-18 has rev. IIa). I see VF details (closer to a 30 than to a 20), and I wouldn't be surprised if the coin has been cleaned. CDN buy/sell for a VF is $28/$31.

 

Could one of you nickel gurus explain to me what tipped you off that this might have been (or was) cleaned? To me, it looks like a nice, pleasing, dirty old nickel, but I am not a nickel expert.

[skippy]

The other guys get up way earlier in the day than I do. :-)

 

I already have good photos of the 1868 F-40 and the 1872 F-122 (which, BTW, is the same coin as F-111).

 

If you want to send me the 1868 F-18, send me private email at the address in my previous posting and I'll tell you how to arrange it.

 

Howard

[dooly]

Cheers howard will do as soon as it gets to me from over the pond

[IGWT]

I agree that the coin is F-18 (yes, F-18 has rev. IIa). I see VF details (closer to a 30 than to a 20), and I wouldn't be surprised if the coin has been cleaned. CDN buy/sell for a VF is $28/$31.

 

Could one of you nickel gurus explain to me what tipped you off that this might have been (or was) cleaned? To me, it looks like a nice, pleasing, dirty old nickel, but I am not a nickel expert.

 

Mark will likely have more helpful information based on his extensive knowledge as a dealer & grader, and others have more experience with circulated Shields than I do. That said, there are a couple signs that I read as cleaning.

 

First, Shields typically picked up a lot of crud in cirulation; the design is a dirt magnet. So, although you see a "dirty old nickel," there is a lot less dirt than I would expect. Second, the uniformity of the gray coloration with remnants of dirt in the nooks & crannies and around the peripheries of the devices suggests a cleaning of some sort. Third, the texture of the surfaces -- especially the fields -- looks as though a mild abrasive was used for the cleaning, e.g., a paste of baking soda & water. Coins wear smooth, not rough, as they circulate. It's possible that the roughness is slight environmental damage; but, even so, some scrubbing was likely required to remove whatever caused it.

 

Again, I don't claim to be an expert in this area, and I look forward to Mark's comments and trust that he'll correct me where I'm wrong.