I need a good Lincoln Cent Collector

[jesbroken]

I would like to pose a question to a lincoln cent "specialist" in regards to the location of the S mint mark on a 1909 S VDB. I have found it to be located just nearly half way underneath the 0 of the date in nearly a dozen specimens on Heritage. Does it ever show up further to the left say not under the 0 at all but dead between the 9 and 0?

Jes

 

I've added the following photo to help with the question. Which 1909Svdb cent would you be willing to buy-quality/price concerns aside? Would you have a problem with the mintmark on the left?

Thanks

Jes

[rbrown4]

I am by no means a specialist in Lincoln Cents but I have not come across any references or pictures of a variety of this type for this coin. The normal 1909 S can have a fairly easy variety to locate with the S repunched over a horizontal S. The 2nd S is in the correct position but does appear west of the first S however it is not half way between the 9 and O.

 

I would love to own a 1909 S VDB in my collection regardless of where the S was!!!!

[leeg]

Heres a link for ya:

 

 

coppercoins

[spiny]

I would like to pose a question to a lincoln cent "specialist" in regards to the location of the S mint mark on a 1909 S VDB. I have found it to be located just nearly half way underneath the 0 of the date in nearly a dozen specimens on Heritage. Does it ever show up further to the left say not under the 0 at all but dead between the 9 and 0?

Jes

 

On one of the four obverses the left side of the S lines up with the right side of the nine. The top of the S is slightly higher than the bottom of the nines.

[DC Dawg]

There are two mint-mark types that were used. You can see the differences here. These types appears to be the result of the wearing of the punch used for the mint mark. The SF branch mint may have used the punch on other dies in between sets.

 

As for placement, you should remember that coins of this era have hand-punched mint marks. The dies were manufactured without a mint mark in Philadelphia and shipped to the branch mint. The branch mint will hand punch the mint mark into the dies. Since this was a manual process, the plaecment is not coinsidered a "type" or "variety."

 

Because these are not true "repunched mint marks" but a variety of the same punch, the premium is neglible. It might be a Nice Find, but not something that you can flip for a higher price... except maybe on eBay!

 

Scott

[just carl]

As already stated try coppercoins.com for any questions on Lincoln Cents. The person on that web site has published two books on just that coin and is working on a third one. As to the location of the S, I have several 1909 S and S VDB's and the S floats around a little on each one. Again, already noted they were placed by hand. I would suspect the person that placed them had a few drinks the night before if that is all he did every day. If it was the same person I'd think he would start placing them all over the coin just to break the sequence of the day.

[RGT]

As to the location of the S, I have several 1909 S and S VDB's and the S floats around a little on each one.

 

That happens when the glue gets old. You might try getting a certified coin. The mintmarks tend to stay in place on those.

[drwstr123]

The first pic seems to be Obverse Die #3. The second pic is Obverse Die #4. MIke

[Buffalo_Pete]

Study GOOD before buying one of these raw. There are probably more fakes than real coins.

 

The 1909-S VDB was only minted from 4 different obverse dies. The location of the mintmark DOES matter. Also, the style and shape of the mintmark is EXTREMELY important.

 

The real mintmark is short, squat, and has upper and lower serifs that are parralel up and down.

 

The mintmark has a built-in flaw. Inside the top loop of the S there should be a small lump of metal resting against the mintmark.

 

That was a flaw in the puncheon used to apply the mintmark to the die.

 

ALL GENUINE COINS HAVE THE FLAW.

 

Get a book and STUDY.

 

Knowledge is power.

 

Pete

[WoodenJefferson]

Link-a-dinka-doo

 

There are "die struck" 09-S VDB counterfiets out there also...you need to be looking at the whole coin and not just the positioning of the mint mark.

 

This is scary stuff!