I don't tink sooo.... 1914 D Red

[EZ_E]

1914 D full red

 

This certainly doesn't look like a full red mint bloom. Instead it looks like its been fiddled with in my opinion. What say you?

[Bruceswar]

Not red at all... well ok it is red... but RB...

[EZ_E]

Not red at all... well ok it is red... but RB...

 

I agree. But the surfaces still don't look right.

[Bruceswar]

Agreed again... but someone will pay big money for that slab, and I will continue to hunt out coins like the 1921 Peace Dollar I posted... Lets see Both KEY dates.. One is about 15,000 to 20,000 in price, and seemingly mislabeled. The other was picked up for BU Price for a 1921, but wait its striking in hand whereas that coin would lack or seem to from the images. Only a few years seperate the coins... and the 1921 Peace Dollar even has a lower mintage Go Figure

[jgrinz]

I really dont think that PCGS could have screwed this up that bad. Might have been packaged as a RED but things still occur in a slab too .. It may be toning in the slab. The owner Probably wants to get rid of this thing REAL FAST if that is the case casue time makes ugly or in this case RED _ RED BROWN_ BROWN

[ldhair]

The large image makes it look a bit odd.

The image in the slab looks more true to life.

I'm thinking it has darkened in the slab over the years.

It would probably grade RB today.

[paperchaser-migration]

Hmmmm, maybe it's the way it was photographed but is there a small reverse die rotation on this? Nice coin!

[braddick]

Photo looks R/B.

 

Who knows what the coin looks like. . .

[TomB]

The coin looks RB from the image of the coin and slab however, the image of the coin alone is clearly overlit and that flattens out all depth of color and originality. In my opinion, the coin is an RB with fingerprint or flyspeck residue but also looks original from the smaller image.

[chinook]

Like I have said many times, be very leery of buying red copper in OGH's. Many of coins I have seen also appear overgraded. Perhaps thats why they are still in the older holder.

[michael]

pre 1995 slab

 

turned in holder

 

currently rb

 

this coin in bourse advanced collector and specialist dealer terms is called simply

 

a rat pig dog

 

hopefully it will find a new home to an internet inexperienced buyer (fish) in this turbo charged hot lincoln cent market

[James_OldeTowne]

I have become so cynical of just about all the so-called RED copper in slabs, and not just PCGS either. NGC is just as guilty.

 

I've told the story before about talking with an ex-PCGS grader who told me he could usually tell who "did" a red copper coin based on the retoning characteristics, and it's stunning what percentage of coins in holders that he stated were "done".

 

We're talking about a PCGS grader here, not some yahoo making up coin stories. And I've also stated before that there's a well-known copper doctor who specializes about 90% on getting early copper into NGC holders.

 

Regarding the coin in question, I agree that this 1914-D simply does not look "right". Now, the 1914-Ds are known to have a different reddish coloration than other Lincolns of the era, but the images at least just make this coin look "off".

 

James

[EZ_E]

I remember a "doctored" red IHC cent in an NGC holder that was used for grading purposes at the Oct 2003 ANA Coin Grading Seminar in the Seattle area. The instructor pointed out the coloring characteristics which leaned towards pink. The coin looked decent in hand but one could still tell that the color was a little off.

[MikeKing]

the worm turns

[Merc]

So, how do you price a 90% red coin? I've seen many in a R/B holder that just have a bit of red left (10% or so). This coin should be in a R/B holder and should not get a full red price. Still, it is much better than most R/B coins.

[Oldtrader3]

There certainly are a lot of early Lincoln cents that are in RD holders that have either turned or were optimistically graded to begin with. I am inclined to think that this coin was RB to begin with. Early Lincoln cents are often over graded by both PCGS and NGC.