Part II of II... should any of these toners find a home within NGC's slab?

[airplanenut]

As promised, lots more pictures These would probably go to NGC, and likely be part of a modern submission...

 

1970-D 5c with nice lustre (I have had people say this is some sort of endroll toning--don't know if it's a little too "loud" to get in a holder--David Lange says less than 50% shot it'll make it)

 

 

1969-S Proof Dime #1

 

 

1969-S Proof Dime #2 (Cautioned not to send this and #1 at the same time, for fear that the color is so similar)

 

 

1973-D Half (MS64+)

 

 

1977 Half (MS65)

 

 

 

Thanks for your opinions on these!

 

Jeremy

[jom]

The 70D nickel is AT to me. The top 73-D Kennedy is funny too. All the others should be fine.

 

jom

[airplanenut]

You're actually the first person to call it AT

 

Tom Bush has seen it in person, and quite a few others who have at least seen pictures have said it's an endroller. Even David Lange didn't outright say it was AT, but rather, could come across as looking funky. That said, he gave a great explanation to someone complaining about an AT bodybag today about why that color was not necessarily AT, but rather, couldn't be seen easily as natural in the eyes of the graders (ie, they couldn't imagine how it happened).

 

And ugly? How dare you insult my coin!

 

Jeremy

[truthteller]

All coins look good except the 70D nickel. The color is a bit splotchy.

 

 

TRUTH

[jom]

You're actually the first person to call it AT

 

Well, I am looking at a photo so I dunno. As to the ugly comment...I've edited that. I should not being saying that kind of thing. Sorry. Let's just say the color (as seen in the picture) is "not for me".

 

I'm also going to add that the "AT" issue for me doesn't seem to be as a big deal as it is to others. I mean, if you like the coin who cares whether it's AT or not?

 

Also, as to having the coins slabbed: Do you intend to SELL the coins in the not too distant future? If not, why waste the money now to slab them? IMO, I just don't see any reason to slab a raw coin unless you are selling.

 

jom

[airplanenut]

Yes--figure the coins will be sold... so figure the question is whether or not they will bring more than they would raw plus the slabbing fee if slabbed

 

Jeremy

[jom]

OK then, with a quick retake here: I'd say your BEST bet is to slab the proof dimes. Those seem the top of the line with this set of coins. I'm not sure I'd bother with the others but then again I'm not all that familiar with pricing on these coins.

 

I don't buy slabbed Moderns all that often but I do admit I did buy both an Ike and a Kennedy recently but that was because they both had Dansco toning to them. I kind of like that look myself...since I've had some experience with having some of my raw Kennedys tone in Danscos over the years.

 

jom

[kryptonitecomics]

I agree with the assessment of others on the 70-D...it could be natural, but with the splotches of color here and there on the coin.....I am not sure I would send that one in.

 

I love the color on those dimes

[topsman]

Just thought I toss in my 2 cents.

5c: Nice color on the obverse, but the reverse side is a little spotty and took away my interest.

10c: They are both AMAZING!

50c: The 77 is very nice, espcially the obverse. The 73 is pretty good.

 

But then again, I really don't know much about toned coins.

[TomB]

Is that the '70-D that you bought from Alex at the GSNA? If so, then I remember the coin and I thought there were no issues with it. Jeremy brings up a good point that David mentioned to him. That is, the graders might not think a coin is necessarily AT, however, they might not be able to reconcile how it received its toning. Therefore, the coin may bag even though they could not state AT. This particular coin looks, in hand, original to me.

 

I've had similar experiences with two cents, one an IHC and another a Lincoln, that were sent to NGC. The IHC is the most wonderfully toned MS piece I have ever seen, but has been bagged twice by NGC as AT. I asked about why it was bagged, even though very many proof IHCs look like it, and was told that none of the graders thought the coin was AT, but that none of the graders could realistically see how the coin toned in the manner that it had. So, it is still raw. The Lincoln cent I showed to David before I submitted it and he thought it was original, however, he also said that the colors on it, it is a proof coin, were similar to the colors that folks obtain when they treat these coins. Because of that, he wasn't sure the coin would slab, though it did.

[airplanenut]

Tom,

 

Thanks for your story... can I buy that horrifically AT cent cheap?

 

Maybe I'll hold off on the submission and show you the coins in September... you should have gone to the NY show to see them

 

Jeremy