Re-Shuffling My USA/Philippines Type Sets by JAA USA/Philippines Collection

[CSJournals-migration]

Playing with the new "Filter Ranking" application can be really addicting. When I saw that my USA/Philippines Type Set ranked number one when viewed through the "NGC Coins" filter I began to wonder if I could build a 100% complete NGC set, with the coins that I already owned, without sacrificing the quality and eye appeal of my "All Coins" set.

 

Before the re-shuffling my USA/Philippines Type Set had 25,623 Registry Points and ranked 2nd when viewed with the "All Coins" filter. The set contained seventeen NGC coins (85%) and three PCGS coins. The PCGS coins were; Five Centavos 1937 M (MS65), Ten Centavos 1906 (PF66), and Twenty Centavos 1903 (PF66).

 

My second USA/Philippines Type Set, which ranks fourth under the "All Coins" filter, has some very attractive coins in its own right. http://coins.www.collectors-society.com/registry/coins/SetListing.aspx?PeopleSetID=106152&Ranking=all In reviewing this set I found two likely candidates to swap out for PCGS coins in my primary set.

 

My NGC graded 1941 M Five Centavos (MS64) is nearly as nice as my PCGS 1937 M Five Centavos (MS65) and has only 107 less registry points. The other coin that I decided to move to my primary set was a very attractive NGC 1903 Ten Centavos (PF65) which I swapped out for a PCGS 1906 Ten Centavos (PR66). The Ten Centavos swap cost me 720 registry points.

 

When I was done my primary USA/Philippines Type Set had lost 827 registry points but with 24,796 Registry Points was still the second ranked set under the "All Coins" filter and the top ranked set under the "NGC Coins" filter. My updated USA/Philippines Type Set contains nineteen NGC coins (95%) and only one PCGS coin.

 

The last remaining PCGS coin in my set is a 1903 Twenty Centavos PR66. I have a NGC graded 1903 Twenty Centavos PF64 that I could switch with this coin but that would be a big step backward in terms of quality and eye appeal.

 

The thought of having a 100% complete NGC only set is really appealing but I am not willing to sacrifice the overall quality and eye appeal of my set to attain that goal. I have never been a big fan of crossing over coins but now every time I look at my set and see that one remaining PCGS coin I hear a little voice whispering in my ear "cross me over, cross me over".

 

Will I break down and cross over that last PCGS coin only time will tell. My brain tells me that it is the coin not the slab that is important but that little voice keeps whispering in my ear.

 

Visit my Updated USA/Philippines Type Set at: http://coins.www.collectors-society.com/registry/coins/SetListing.aspx?PeopleSetID=51257&Ranking=ngc

 

The coins pictured are 1906 Ten Centavos PCGS PR66 and 1903 Ten Centavos NGC PF65

 

See more journals by JAA USA/Philippines Collection

[mkman123]

Congrats on a great set. If I'm correct if you crossover, you can ship it in the pcgs slab and ngc will crack it out for you.

[Jack Robinson]

Nice info for us to look into building NGC sets.

 

Questions: If you cross over, dont you risk the chance of not gaining the higher PF grade? Could it stay the same or, due to Murphys Law, go down? IMHO

[JAA]

When you submit a PCGS coin for crossover NGC will evaluate the coin while it is still in the PCGS slab. If NGC feels that they can not crossover the coin in the same grade they will return it to you in the origional PCGS slab. NGC will only crossover the coin in a lower grade if you indicate on the submission form that you are willing to accept a lower grade. Since I would not authorize NGC to crossover my coin at a lower grade their really would be no risk in submitting the coin for crossover. If it failed to crossover I would still have the coin in its origional PCGS holder.

[mkman123]

jaa, what if NGC looks at the coin and feels that it can upgrade? Will they crack it out and give you the higher grade or ?

[Jack Robinson]

Jaa, I learn something new each time I read these posts. Who said you can not teach an old dog new tricks.

 

Keep us updated. Best wishes,

 

Jack

[JAA]

NGC's crossover policy is printed on the back of the submission form and can be found on the NGC web site at http://coins.www.collectors-society.com/Submission-Instructions.aspx

 

Although you can't request that a coin cross over at a grade higher than the one on the PCGS slab NGC states that they will award a higher grade if the coin merits it.

 

In actual practive I have never seen this happen. Over the years I have submitted several PCGS coins that I felt deserved a higher grade and they all crosed over at the same grade that PCGS had given them.

 

I felt very strongly that two of the crossovers (a 1908 Twenty Centavos PF63 and 1908 Twenty Centavos PF64) deserved a higher grade so I sent them back to NGC for regrading. When they were regraded they both came back at a higher grade. Of course I had to pay both crossover and regrading fees plus double the postage and insurance to recieve the grades that my coins should have recieved the first time around.

 

I suspect that NGC may take more time examining coins when they are submitted as regrades than when they come in as crossovers and therefore the more accurate higher grade the second time around.

[mkman123]

Ahhh thanks for the clarification!!!