Grade this 1901-S $10 Liberty

[livtocruz]

NGC has had this coin listed as "In Quality Control" since 2/10/10. Aaaarrrrrgggghhhh! The coin looks better in person, I haven't mastered macro photography with a digital camera yet.

 

[michael]

hard to tell from the scans

 

but

 

au58 to ms62

 

range

[michael]

welcome to the boards and please let me know waht it does grade at ngc

 

good luck!!

[HiHoAudio]

Looks MS-61 or MS-62 to me, you may get lucky and it slabs as MS-63.

 

Good luck, let us know how it does!

[tejas1836]

It appears to have a very good strike. Both sides appear to have enough bag marks to to keep it at a MS61 or MS62. You said it looked better in person. I'm guessing it looks much better. Good luck with your submission and I'd like to hear how it turns out too.

 

David

[BillJones]

It's hard to grade this from the photo, but I'd say it's somewhere in the AU-58 to MS-62 range. I doubt that it is a really a strict Mint State piece because of the marks I see in the field. Usually those kind of surfaces indicate an AU coin, but the detail looks strong enough to "market grade" in the low MS area.

[dean1345]

AU58

[L1ncolnF4n]

60?

[TJ'S Coins]

Based on the scans, if they are accurate, I cannot see this being a MS coin. My guess AU58. I hope the fields look better in hand.

[livtocruz]

Well, I talked with NGC and was informed that there were too many scratches. They put in a slab with a no grade.

[livtocruz]

Here's the slabbed coin. What scratches?

 

[michael]

i cant tell much from the photos but it looks like the coin could go either way

 

a liner coin that could go one day into a graded regular non problem/details holder

 

i bet if you sent in the coin a few times it would get into a graded holder and of couse i have not seen the coin in hand then it could be different

 

it is not worth sending in the coin of this value for multiple submissions as the coin is worth as much in the holder as out of the holder even in a graded non dteails holder

 

and with this coin in an unc details holder it is ironically worth more OUT OF THE HOLDER RAW

 

again from the photos looks like the coin could have graded but it is a judgment call by the services

 

i have seen numerious genuine early pre- 1815 coins in pcgs holders only later to be cracked out and then in graeded holders worth thousands more

 

go figure

 

such is the subjective nature of grading

[livtocruz]

Took a real close look at the coin under my 10x loupe. Closer than I had before and saw their reasoning. The coin shows a hell of a lot of hairline scratches on both the obverse and reverse.

[michael]

 

 

sell the coin and buy something else already in a graded holder

 

let me know what happens

 

 

good luck

 

[jgrinz]

Gold is going to be somewhat scratchy because of use but the scratch that sticks out to me is the right of the "1" and Left of the "star" and at the neck line

[BillJones]

Based upon that scan, it would appear to me that the coin has been cleaned, and that would be the reason why it did not grade. As for the marks, I don't see anything that is out of the ordinary for a gradeable, circulated Liberty $10 gold.