Possible $25 Platinum Eagle, Reverse Proof variant

[livtocruz]

I'm in a dilemma here and need some opinions. I bought four coins and can post a picture of all four if needed. Thanks in advance for your opinions and advice.

 

The first picture is a normal $25 Platinum Proof

 

 

The second picture is a normal $50 Platinum Reverse Proof.

 

 

The third & fourth picture are the coin I have. I bought it as just an ordinary $25 BU Platinum Eagle. But, It looks like a Reverse Proof, except for one thing. The face does not have the mirror finish. It's like the mint's die struck the blank not as many times as it would take to get a true Reverse Proof.

 

This one is without Auto Correct

 

 

This one is with auto correct.

 

 

 

 

 

[cpm9ball]

Welcome to the neighborhood!

 

There are three different dies used to produce them - one for the normal proof - one for the reverse proof - and a third for the uncirculated. The finish is not determined by how many times the die strikes the planchet. It is determined by the finsih that is imparted to the face of the die. The normal proof has frosted devices and mirrored surfaces in the fields, and the reverse proof is exactly the opposite. The die for the uncirculated version requires no special treatment, however, they may be polished so that early strikes at the beginning of production may have a proof-like appearance. The planchets themselves are also polished for the proof versions.

 

Chris

[MunkyMan95]

An image I found online:

 

 

Completely normal.

[livtocruz]

Monkey, I went to the pics URL home page and downloaded the pics. If that one is listed as MS and has some mirrored finishes then what is this one? This first pic is listed as MS and has no mirror finish anywhere.

 

 

Yo, Monkey, your pics blown up a little.

 

Once again, my coin below.

 

So, in conclusion, the U.S. mint has two sets of dies for MS Plats ???

Or, the 2003 & 1997 should be noted as Early Release ??

[cpm9ball]

Monkey, I went to the pics URL home page and clicked on pictures, nothing. If that one is listed as MS and has some mirrored finishes then what is this one? This is listed as MS and has no mirror finish anywhere.

 

 

Yo, Monkey, you lost your pic.

 

It's probably a late die state.

 

Chris

[MunkyMan95]

That picture is taken at an angle - it really is exactly like your coin, but does not appear that way in the photo you posted. Some of the devices are mirrored, just like your coin.

 

Trust me, your coin is nothing special, it's completely normal.

 

Here's another few:

 

 

 

[livtocruz]

Well people if that's the case then accept my apologies for thinking I had something special. Prior to these (Plat Eagles) er, Plat Liberties my only closeup was jewelry and 2 1-gram bars that I have. When I saw these 4 coins together, the proof like areas of the 1997 stood out immediately and my wheels started turning. See for yourselves.

 

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What was I thinking ? or seeing $$$$. This old man never gets lucky.

[cpm9ball]

Did you buy them already? If so, I would remove them from those flips post-haste. They look like the soft variety, and there is no sense risking the possibility of PVC damage.

 

Chris

[livtocruz]

Thanks Chris.

[Conder101]

I don't think you can get PVC damage on platinum. PVC damage comes from Hydrochloric acid that develops in the lasticizer. You get the funky green color from the acid reacting with the copper in the coin alloys as the acid etches the surfaces. Hydrochloric acid will not affect Platinum and there is no copper in the coin.

[cpm9ball]

You probably know more about it than me, Conder, but I wouldn't want to find out otherwise.

 

Chris

[delta]

All the bullion mint state platinum eagles from 1997 (when the program began) up until 2003 display some features of a reverse proof, and for that reason raw examples are even sometimes wrongly described as proofs by persons unfamiliar with them.

 

Then from 2004 to 2008 (when the last of the bullion platinum eagles were minted) the types of dies and the specs were changed and there were no longer any polished surfaces on some of the devices.

[RockMyAmadeus]

Munky...

 

[delta]

Reviewing the situation for US platinum eagles, there are five major categories of strikes so far in the series:

 

1. Proofs (1997 to date), with even some variables and variations here.

2. Ordinary mint state: 2004 to 2008.

3, Mint state with most devices polished: 1997-2003.

4. Burnished: 2006-2008.

5. Reverse proof: Only a 2007 $50 1/2 ounce.

 

Up until now, there have been 111 different platinum eagle coins in four denominations struck by the US mint. If you obtain one of each, your total platinum would be 52.45 troy ounces.