Someone please bring me back to earth Re: 3-cent silver

[chinook]

Michael's previous thread on the 3-cent silver got me into looking at a piece I just acquired in the last few weeks. I bought it without even using a loupe for closer inspection. It is that beautiful. It is dated 1863.

 

Well I just finished photographing it and I noticed something a bit unusual. The top of the D in UNITED is open and there appears to be a 2 under the 3. Is this an 1863/2? I can't possibly be that lucky.

 

I am still a little in shock because the coin is graded by PCGS as PF-66 CAM. There is only 1 graded by PCGS as CAM and it is a 64. Also NGC has only graded 1 as a CAM and it is also a 64. Perhaps this is the same coin.

 

Is it possible that PCGS would have missed it also?

 

Someone please tell me that I am mistaken and this is just a plain ordinary 1863. I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.

 

Thanks. Dave.

[MarkFeld]

Dave, according to Breen, some of the non-overdates also have an open top to the "D". Also, I don't see the expected apparent doubling of the numerals in the date that the overdate should have, at least, based on the photo in Breen's Encyclopedia, which I just looked at.

 

Consider this being brought back to earth but you should still check it out further. Good luck. Either way, it sure looks pretty.

[chinook]

Mark,

 

Thanks for the quick reply. There 1863/2 3-cent silver is also an example in the upcoming ANR auction

 

It is difficult to see the doubling of the date on this coin also.

 

I just looked with a 16x loupe and I do see north-south doubling of each numeral. It looks as if the 1863 was repunched over the 1862 just slightly to the north. Also there definately is something under the 3.

 

I don't have any reference materials to help me confirm this diagnostic. Could you please help?

 

Thanks again. Dave

[MarkFeld]

Dave, PM sent . Good luck.

[Trime-migration]

Dave,

The look on the scan is not ideal but looks like the real thing. Blow it up and show again.

I have two 1863/2 both PR65. One misclassified by NGC as a 1863. They may be a little more common that indicated in POP charts. One has a heavier overdate than the other. Both have similar toning to your very nice coin.

[chinook]

Just wanted to follow up on this coin. I sent it back to PCGS for review at the Baltimore show. The blind squirrel found a nut, maybe a coconut, as it came back in a 1863/2 holder. WHOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bruceswar]

very nice pick up.. thats an upgrade if you ask me

[Wihlborg]

 

John

[TomB]

Nice work!!!

 

I knew this had to be an old thread since Mark was posting in it!

[chinook]

Yea Tom. I did dig this one out of the ashes.

 

I was relatively new to the boards then and I couldnt quite hold my excitement when I thought I might have had the overdate. It is nearly impossible to find any diagnostics or pictures on the internet. I finally bought a Breens encyclopedia and looked it up. After reading the description I thought I had enough evidence to resubmit. Now I am very happy I did!!!

[melmcbee]

Congrats.

[michael]

[Oldtrader3]

Great coin! Great job on getting it resbmitted and corrected.