help identifying ancient ? Greek coin please

[dooly]

Hi all .. i am having no luck with this coin .. is there anyone out there who could shed some light on it for me please ?

 

The coin seems to be made of a bronze alloy and is 28mm .. and is 16.4g

Obverse legend :- O M H / P O C

Reverse legend:- AMACTPIVN?N / Mint :- MEAHC

 

 

thanks

[dooly]

Paphlagonia, Amastris AR Didrachm. Circa 285 BC. Head of Amastris right, in mitra with wreath & star / AMASTRIEWN, Aphrodite enthroned left, in polos & holding Nike in right hand, scepter in left; to left, myrtle bud. RecGen 5, SNG von Aulock 152, Dewing 2123/2124.

 

i have found this reference on wildwinds .. but you cannot access the site .. anyone know what has happened to the site ?

[the_Thing ®]

Hey dooly. I know it was down when I tried going there yesterday. I think its a glitch and they will be back. I'm glad you figured out what the coin was. I have no idea where to start when it comes to Greek coins. I can usually guess the time period based on styles, but that is as far as it goes. Where did you pick up the coin? I like the surface/patina.

[dooly]

Hi there thing . I will try them tomorrow and see what happens.. i purchased it from a detectorist who said he had found it detecting, which i don't believe but it was cheep as chips so i had to have it .

[PaigeAM-migration]

Hi,

I just bought "Warman's - 4th edition Coins & Paper Money" they had a Ancient Coin - Greece section but did not find it.

 

PaigeAM

[dooly]

WILD WINDS is still not working !!

 

but i have found this out.

 

http://www.s110120695.websitehome.co.uk/SNG/sng_reply2a.php?verb=SNGuk_0602_1289

 

SNG Vol: VI 1289 Fitzwilliam Musuem

State: Amastris

OBV Description: Head of Homer r. REV Description: River god Meles seated l., holding lyre and reed.

OBV Inscription: OMH - RO% REV Inscription: MELH%

REV Secondary Inscription: AMA%TRIANVN

Period: Late lst cent BC-late 1st AD -30 100

Die Axis in numbers: 12 Die Axis in degrees: 0 Metal: AE Weight: 11.83

Wear: Worn Cast or Struck: Struck

Acquisition:

Manner of Acquisition: Purchase Auction House: Rollin and Feuardent Date of First Day: 30/06/1879 Lot Number: 245

ID: SNGuk_0602_1289

 

CLOSE BUT NOT SPOT ON !!!!

 

AND THIS ONE !!!

 

http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4905/?search&stype=quick&q=pontus&rno=41

 

Date 101–200

Pseudo-autonomous? Yes

Obverse design draped bust of Homer wearing taenia, r.

Obverse inscription ΟΜΗΡΟΣ

Reverse design river-god Meles reclining, l., holding lyre and reed, resting on water-urn

Reverse inscription ΜΕΛΗΣ ΑΜΑΣΤΡΙΑΝΩΝ

Metal Bronze

Average diameter 27 mm

Average weight 11.93 g

 

STILL CLOSE BUT NOT BANG ON !!!! and a probable forgery

 

dooly

[dooly]

I think i finally have it but is mine in better condition than the museums

 

 

http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4905/1/

 

City; Province; Region Amastris; Bithynia-Pontus; Paphlagonia

Date 101–200

Pseudo-autonomous? Yes

Obverse design draped bust of Homer wearing taenia, r.

Obverse inscription ΟΜΗΡΟΣ

Reverse design river-god Meles reclining, l., holding lyre and reed, resting on water-urn

Reverse inscription ΜΕΛΗΣ ΑΜΑΣΤΡΙΑΝΩΝ

Metal Bronze

Average diameter 27 mm

Average weight 11.93 g

Average die-axis various

Type reference Rec 38, Cop 251

 

there coin seems to have lost about 5g ha!

[the_Thing ®]

Hopefully wildwinds will be back online soon. Here is a thread from another message board discussing it.

 

wildwinds

[the_Thing ®]

Looks like you have a keeper there dooly. Any idea on its value?

[dooly]

Glad i am not the only one missing wildwinds.. as for the coin I have been unable to find a price guide for it .. but it is interesting that coin number 1 was purchased at auction in the 1780's so they all seem uncommon so far .. will try and do some digging and see if it should be put into the other ancients going to spinks

[dooly]

Just been on Historia numorum and the only one i can find listed it this very small one !! but it is not the easiest place to navigate so i may have missed my coin

 

http://www.snible.org/coins/hn/index.html

 

Dept.: G Obj.Type: C Reference: RGA.45|||||||||||||||||||

Region: Paphlagonia Kings Locality: Mint: Amastris

Material: AE Denom.:

Weight: 4.89 Size: Axis: 1

Date: / Era: Date on Obj.:

Category: Person: ||||||||||||||||||| Dynasty: Roman provincial Issuer:

ObvLegd: OMHPOC

ObvType: head of Homer

RevLegd:

RevType: river-god ...NA...recling, holding lyre

PrevColl.:

Color: UnderType: CounterStamp:

Publication: Symbols:

OtherInfo.: Imperial times

Preferred URL: http://www.numismatics.org/lookup.cgi?string=1944.100.41507

 

Just found this one all be it the 6.58g (10g lighter than mine) one in an auction arkive site

 

Dr. Busso Peus Nachfolger

> Auction 380

Auction date: 3 November 2004

Lot number: 444

Price realized: 450 EUR (approx. 576 U.S. Dollars as of the auction date) Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.

Lot description:

 

GRIECHISCHE MÜNZEN (GREEK COINS)

-Paphlagonien

-Amastris

 

444.

Bronze 2. Jhdt. n. Chr. Büste des Homer / Flussgott Meles mit Pflanze und Schilfrohr an Felsen. Waddington et al., Rec. Gen., Tf. XIX, 2. 6.58 g. Hellbraune Patina, Selten Sehr schön

 

Ex Auktion M&M Basel 79, 1994, 303.

 

 

Schätzung (estimation): 300,-- EUR

 

And this 9.15g one

 

Dr. Busso Peus Nachfolger

> Auction 366

Auction date: 29 October 2000

Lot number: 544

Price realized: 500 DEM (approx. 218 U.S. Dollars as of the auction date) Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.

Lot description:

 

 

Sammlung Marcel Burstein, Nevada,

 

Provinzialprägungen des Römischen Reiches

 

Paphlagonien

 

Amastris.

 

No: 544 Schätzpreis/Estimation DM 400,-

 

Stadt. Bronze. Büste des Homer / Lagernder Flussgott Meles mit Trauben. Imhoof-Blumer in SNR 23, 1923, S. 259, 214 var. Unpublizierte Variante. 9,15 g.

Helle Messingpatina Sehr schön