Rattlers and Fattys....let me see whatcha got?

[ngc007]

Hi, In regards to Old NGC black holders, there is a 1891 O MS64 morgan currently on ebay. One dealer told me that D.L. from NGC told him that there are only 36 black holders out there at maximun based on the tags that were returned. Is that accurate? Thanks

[kryptonitecomics]

I doubt that is accurate but I can tell you there aren't a lot of them still around and you have to pay a very steep premium for coins housed in them so.......buy the coin and not the plastic

 

I would love to own one......but unless you get lucky and find a nocice who doesn't know what they have........I can't afford even a common date Morgan in a black slab

[TomB]

Hi, In regards to Old NGC black holders, there is a 1891 O MS64 morgan currently on ebay. One dealer told me that D.L. from NGC told him that there are only 36 black holders out there at maximun based on the tags that were returned. Is that accurate? Thanks

I don't think that is accurate. I know of one or two folks with mini hoards of black holder NGC coins that might add up to that number from their holdings alone. Additionally, the first white NGC-slabbed coins used the same insert as the black label slabs. Therefore, if one were to return the insert there would have been no way to know if the coin was from a black slab or a white slab. Regardless, folks were never that responsible to return the tags so I doubt there was such a high return rate for the tags of black holdered coins.

[DC Dawg]

Hi, In regards to Old NGC black holders, there is a 1891 O MS64 morgan currently on ebay. One dealer told me that D.L. from NGC told him that there are only 36 black holders out there at maximun based on the tags that were returned. Is that accurate? Thanks

 

For anyone interested, you can find that black holder here.

 

According to the eBay listing, this coin was sold by Heritage at FUN in January. You can find that listing here.

 

Scott

[Tradedollarnut]

Additionally, the first white NGC-slabbed coins used the same insert as the black label slabs. Therefore, if one were to return the insert there would have been no way to know if the coin was from a black slab or a white slab.

 

Unless NGC had records stating the date of slabbing for each insert number and knew what date the black ended and white started [a very probable premise].

[Dwaine]

I kind of like the blank insert. It makes the Morgan silver dollar stand out more. Not sure how other coins would look.

[ngc007]

The 1891 o morgan ms64 black NGC holder is up again on ebay at no reserve. Can we have David Lange's comment on how many of these black holder's exist?

[Conder101]

I would find a maximum of 36 to be unreasonably low. A minimum maybe but not a maximum. For one thing a lot of them were cracked and resubitted either to NGC or PCGS and the labels were never sent back in so that would throw the count off. If they actualy did run through the records and determined that all but 36 had had their labels returned then then there are probably more slabsout there than there are labels. In the past ten years I know of about 12 different coins and I'm sure there are significantly more tha that still around. I would put a top figure at about 200 or so still in existance.

 

The eBay auction mentions that only 6 other offerings of black NGC slabs have appeared. That is about right, but three of them were of the same slab, which is now in my collection. I also don't think that includes the two empty slabs that have sold on eBay. (The cheap way to get a black NGC, only about $75. But they show up even less often than whole slabs.)

[leeg]

 

A couple more in my collection:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dwaine]

Very nice commem's.

[jackson64]

3 of my favorite rattlers...and by the way, you can turn the Walkers so that they are upright if you tap them in the right spot-they're a bit bottom heavy.....all 3 appear undergraded by todays standards...gotta love it. When was the last time you saw a lustrous full skirt line Walker only graded a 64?

[SkyMan]

Nice looking coins everyone!

 

The stuff going on on the reverse is on the slab. This is currently graded PR68 in an OGH.

 

[kryptonitecomics]

I am real happy to see this thread still going.....considering that 90% of what I am buying right now is old NGC holdered coins

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:banana: :banana:

 

[leeg]

Nice Buff Shane

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kryptonitecomics]

Yes well I have to stay away from the Lincolns......... lol

 

That 1928 looks like it's got some pretty color to it

[Mirrored Morgan]

 

[kryptonitecomics]

Very nice....DPL oh baby!!!!

[leeg]

That 1928 looks like it's got some pretty color to it

 

 

 

[kryptonitecomics]

See.......You can't pull a fast one on us toned coin hunters....I can see color on the smallest of images from a mile away....honed my skills shopping Ebay

 

lol