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The Real Owner

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    1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle Graded MS-65....no holder !!

    in US, World, and Ancient Coins

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    On 4/10/2021 at 10:08 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

    I respectfully disagree. I feel like Henry Fonda did in "12 Angry Men." Everything I can think of militates squarely against not having this certified.

    Does "everyone" know what it is? Did "everyone" also know who owned it and where it was kept and under what circumstances?  (That knock on the door is VKurtB.  He wants to see the coin up close and personally.)

    The coin has already lost a few points on grading; coins do not get better with age. They stay the same or degrade.  Once the chain of custody is broken, all bets are off. 

    Few true collectors are going to buy a coin solely on the strength of a paper. What happened to differing "opinions"?  What if it is submitted for cross-grading and declined? Grades matter.

    Encapsulation is state-of-the-art protection, verification of authenticity, provenance, and state of preservation, attributes that are magnified in importance should this coin, once again, fall into the hands of a non-collector.  Foregoing encapsulation requires that the owner attempt preservation of a coin, maintain documentation, the integrity of the receptacle chosen and the environment it is stored in.

    To me, encapsulation for a coin like this is mandatory and it would be especially helpful if also comes with a special presentation case and document briefly summarizing its history. My personal feeling is the successful bidder will be a speculator. If it is me, I will post the coin on the thread featuring your latest U.S. acquisition, sit back, and enjoy the commentary it evokes: Counterfeit!  Definitely a fake!  The color looks off.  Looks flat.  No way that's an MS65!  If it were real, you wouldn't be holding it like that.  That and $3 will get you on the subway, etc.  😉

    I know where this coin & all the other 1933's came from but I don't know how Weitzman acquired the coin. He did not own it before 2020 & he didn't own the inverted Jenny's or the other stamp before 2020. And the coin was not stored at the World Trade Center. It and all the other 1933's had not been seen until they were purchased from an estate along with all the other top examples of coins & Currency that have went up for auction in the past 18 months.  What is the Langbord 10?