Mathguy1986

Obviously,  the proof is in the pudding right? I noticed small detail differences in several different signatures by the same person(this would statistically be untrue if it was created by a mechine) and shown above clearly indicates the labels are hand signed by the actual person.

Hello again everyone, it's been a while since I had a question but I was curious about the hand signed labels. Are the signatures on each label a live signature? Meaning they are hand written. By a real person on each label individually? I know this question seems very basic but I bought a signed slab from pcgs a w quarter and was curious about it.

Dr. S

I went on the Mint's website right as it opened and purchased a limited addition coin set of the coin and the bill. Mintage of 50,000 and I saw "pre-sale" options on Ebay. What do you guys and gals think of this set? Investment in modern coins?  Mohawk are you out there? Weigh in if you please.

Dr. S

My last post dealt with questions regarding the W-quarters and as such we discussed: value, future trends ,and the fads associated with these quarters including the buying power/market trends for the coins. My next stop is the ATB S mint quarters business strike. As produced, their mintages place them in a low state with a few under 900,000. Most recent inquiries about S coins have led me to wonder what the future holds for these coins. Keeping in mind grades and limited production. Do collectors view these coins serious as a future asset or investment or should this even be considered as such? Yes, I know mintage is only a small part of a much larger equation but on a futuristic note. What are my long term prospects for these coins? 

Dr.S

I do appreciate the advice. Yes, I have taken him to local dealers for the experience and sorta the "run-arounds" of how the system works. I also started young. My grandmother was my inspiration behind my collecting. Of course, moving through school-college and eventually my Ph.D at 33 ( current old age) taught me a lot in my schools. I was the only collector so it was sad to see so many people not interested in a unique hobby. 

That does make sense. Thanks for your input on the matter. If anything, I have used this GACH as a way of teaching my step-son the knowledge in: market trends, fads, slabs, and more importantly the fun behind the hunt. The coins may be less valuable as we discussed earlier but teach a fundamental basic that all young kids need to know. It gets him looking and like most experts and knowledgable dealers it starts somewhere in life. With most, it starts with the pocket change I think and hes excited about learning. Thanks again Mohawk.

Dr. S

Your right on the lack of creativity part on the mint. Some amazing designs are created outside the US such as the Australian Mint in my view. I'll admit it though, the W series had me hooked due to the intrinsic view collectors have with regarding a treasure hunt. I mean who doesn't enjoy tresure hunting?? Tell me something Mohawk,  dealers are aware or knowledgeable in market fads and hypes. Why sell the point to the lesser if the coin (W-quarters) are unstable market wise long term? Most dealers will be faced with this issue if the coins are sold back to them for less (possibly far less) than the initial value set by the market?

One more quick question Tom if I may. Pedigree is important, so could this substacate (justify) some W premiums in the future i.e. First discovery-First Week-Early Bird etc.?

I have seen them raw but usually pushing $20 per coin.  Any prediction on market adjustment in price on them?

It does help and thank you for your experience in this matter. I have found it interesting regarding the S mints. My step-son found one in pocket change during the GACH and it only had 1.3 million struck and yet faded in price relatively quick when historical data was reviewed. 

Thanks Tom for your response.  It is clear from an investigation standpoint that these quarters do have that enviable "fad factor" as you had mentioned. I can honestly say that after collecting for 15 years I'm still guilty of wanting that one thing everyone else has. I'll admit; been there and bought the rolls looking for them in a hope of finding one (By the way I didn't). So I get the fad and loss interests in something some people would consider numismatic hype/market flooding on that sense. 

Tell me, I bought 2 different quarters one MS 64 NGC and MS 65 PCGS. Is it a terrible consequence that people will continue to pay $30 to $100+ for these quarters that dealers will continue to submit them for grading in hopes of this fad profit?

So there is this neat but interesting W Quarter stuff going on. The current market seemed flooded with the quarters. Prices have been on the flux as more coins enter the certification stage (price guides and Ebay prices seem to reflect this) however, should investment be also reflected when buying these quarters? As you know, grades typically flux as well, when the coins are longer in general circulation (sorta a law of diminishing returns). People have been buying the W's left and right at 64-68 grades. The mintage is only 2 million. Should one invest in this hype or pass? Could I invest long-term and buy a nice 65 or so -sit on it and hope values tend positive linear. Most Americans are unconcerned about collecting these quarters as only the collectors (professionals and dealers) summit them for grading. So I'll ask again, hype or no hype? Now with market flooding should these be taken seriously even though they are generalize circulation quarters ?

Dr. S