Jim Lefeber

When I submit coins which I think might qualify for a 'cameo' designation, do I need to list that request on my submission?

For example, I recently submitted a 1954 Franklin half dollar for grading – 4740895-005. To me the obverse looked like it was a cameo & the reverse slight cameo, but I did not mention this on the submission.  So, after grading, it came back straight PF65.

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4740895-005/65/

This was my first submission to NGC.

The final $20.00 fee is not bad for experts to review two graded PCGS coins.

But consider:  I submitted 22 coins for grading and shipped them to NGC in a single box/shipment. Following the instructions, I had to make a "crossover" submission 4740893 of two coins, so there was a $10.00 handling fee for that.  Then there was a $10.00 handling fee for one "economy" submission 4740894 with 15 coins and another $10.00 handling fee for one "economy" submission with 5 coins (I was unable to put these five coins on 4740894 because there is only room for 15 coins on the form. I requested all coins be returned at the same time in order to keep shipping costs to a minimum.

So, the handling fees for this single shipment was $30.00.

4740893 - 2 coins crossover $80.00 including $10.00 handling fee (re-classified from 'economy' to 'early bird/standard because value >$300.00 on the 1909S). Received $60.00 credit after did not crossover.

4740894 - 15 coins 'economy' $310.00 including $10.00 handling fee.

4740895 - 5 coins 'economy' $110.00 including $10.00 handling fee.

I think I received a $150.00 credit, offered when I joined NGC "Premium" membership. (NGC invoicing is not really clear). I paid $391.00 then received a credit for $60.00.

I am now understanding how this works.  My two cents (for what it is worth or not):  I think a single submission fee per total submission is more fair than a submission fee for each piece of paper in the box.

Today I received a credit from NGC for $60 - so I had to pay $20 ($10 handling fee + $5 for each coin to be looked at).

Each form is considered one submission. So, the crossover is one submission with a $10.00 handling fee, the two gold coins is one submission with a $10.00 handling fee and the five silver coins are one submission with a $10.00 handling fee.

I submitted two coins to NGC for crossover 4740893:

1909 S Lincoln Cent PCGS MS64RD. NGC did not crossover, stated "NOT RD".

1931 S Lincoln Cent PCGS MS63RD. NGC did not crossover, stated "ALTERED COLOR".

So ... is this normal? I paid for "CROSSOVER - EARLY BIRD".  I had hoped to have these coins in NGC holders so I could add them to "My NGC Registry".  Now I am just out the money for the failed crossover.

I am a slight bit disappointed.

So I ask:  Is it normal to expect PCGS graded coins to not be up to NGC grading standards?

Today is July 3 and I have yet to receive a response from NGC / NCS.  I will consider this topic closed and unanswered.

Thank you to "Mohawk" and "Just Bob" for their responses.

I think I choose to just leave the 1942 proof set in the NGC set holder and to leave the 1940 proof set alone in the existing holders.  Better safe than sorry.

I am having no issues using Chrome concerning accessing this website.

Thanks Tom. I posted this Thursday evening June 20.  How long does it normally take NGC/NCS to reply?

Did I ask some stupid questions?  I see viewers but no replies or answers.  Thanks.

If I submit some NGC graded coins to NCS for conservation (to improve their look), do I risk lowering the certification grade?

Also, if I submit a 1942 proof set for "reholder" to individual holders, will the NGC certification for the individual coins remain the same? Can I request the half dollar for conservation without risking lowering the grade?  Or, would anyone simply recommend keeping the set in the single holder?

I am new to this slab grading. It is an improvement over the old days and ways (I last collected in the 60's).  I am collecting proofs again (up to 1964) and I am thinking it is probably a good idea to have them all graded and slabbed.  I suppose I need to remove the ungraded ones from the Capital holders to submit.  Am I risking the dreaded 'cannot certify' for ungraded proofs?  Has this been a problem in the industry?

Thank you for your time and comments.