TomT59

If they are selling fake gold, and its been proven, wouldn't the Treasury Dept be interested? Just curious. 

3 hours ago, Capone1929 said:

 I have 3 ideas but not 100% 1. a Britos Bus/ transportation token 2. A Cuban Casino token 3. A Britos Cuban good luck token as for age I am unsure could be anywhere between 1909 and C. 50's-60's? Like I said I'm not 100% but this is what it appears to be to me. I'm pretty confident in it being Cuban However there is a Britos Transportation bus service in Southern California,  I personally believe it to be vintage Cuban. I Hope this Helps! 

Capone1929

Thank you, I will start looking in that direction. Never pictured it as Cuban, thoughts from the experts were Greek or British.

Folks, I have had this piece for over 40 years. I have been collecting since I was 10, about 50 years now.

I have taken this coin to a number of people, a couple of them foreign coin specialist. One guy still have pictures and is still looking to identify it.

Then I got the idea to post is here and let everyone have a shot.

I really don't know what it is. I googled it etc. No clue.

Any ideas? Please let me know your source if you know what it is. I would like to read about it and its background also.

On ‎4‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 10:27 AM, AlexStoddart said:

Just Bob and Tom Toner:  Many thanks to you both for your assistance and informative views on my problem.  Just one more question gentlemen:  What can I do with the two NGC Trade Dollars that were graded 'Details'?  I noticed they weren't selling very well on Ebay and I can understand why.  I may be new to coin collecting but I don't, and will not have, a cleaned coin in my collection.  I prefer to buy ANACS*, PCGS or NGC as they seem to be the most reliable.  So, do you think maybe an NGC dealer might buy them or do I try Ebay and what might a good price be to unload these?  If I get anything I would be satisfied.  Thanks again for all your help; I truly appreciate the information and guidance.

Alex

*From my early days of collecting.

I agree, list them here in the market place with full disclosure. There are people that would like to have one of them just for the sake of having them. They may not be worth full value, but they are history and that is what a true collector can appreciate. So if you offer at a good price you may get a taker. List as "will consider best offer" or something like that. Even though it is cleaned, you still don't want to give it away.

I agree the 1874 looks terrible. I have coins from ICG, NGC and PCGS, I have found that ICG will grade the coin (for example EF 45 and then label it as cleaned if the cleaning is obvious). In your case as another member suggested, ICG may have felt the cleaning was not enough to detract. I remember over 30 years ago, it was acceptable to clean a coin with soap and water for example, but once a coin got buffed or whizzed, the line was crossed. Now it seems that with NGC and PCGS if there is any indication of a cleaning, they are bailing and just saying "Details - cleaned". Not sure I agree but it is what it is, I don't believe that will change. I have found that ICG is no more or less accurate than the other two, they are just not as popular. My how times have changed.