Kurtdog

Jeff, great news! Congrats!

Can we identify the class of the doubled die from those images? Anybody want to take a shot at that for us?

The only guess in the thread ATS is tilted Class IV. [...]

There may be a IV on Heritage right now. It's not as dramatic in the motto as in your IV but unless one is blind in one eye and doesn't happen to see too well out of the other eye one might make out the shift in the initial and the date as well on this one.

Can we identify the class of the doubled die from those images? Anybody want to take a shot at that for us?

There are no double dies reported for the 1919 in CONECA or in the Merc book I have. If genuine, that is definitely not strike doubling, it would be hub doubling.

"Doubled" dies. A lot of people make that mistake.

Thanks njf.

 

Beautiful coins. Why didn't they grade the first time? That was pretty gutsy submitting them again. I probably would have tried a different grading service, if anything.

 

I believed the coins were original and 100% faith in the seller. So went in for round two, which worked out.

 

Well, if they were AT on one try, and NT on another try, seems to me that would make them 50-50, or ANT.

I think you guys are making a little too much fuss about this.

I think that the whole autographed slab tag thing is silly, not matter who signs it.

Even if I sign it? Hater. What did I ever do to you?

You didn't sell the video, did you? What's the harm in showing us the video?

how can you loose the term altered color when thats what NGC puts on your slab.

Define "altered color." I'll define it. What it means is NGC doesn't want to put its trademark behind that color. Period. They have that right. What goes into those slabs and gets graded by them is their business. It's not your business or my business or anybody else's business. But, don't kid yourself. That's all it is. It doesn't mean they're possessed with any superior knowledge. To believe the latter is simply illusory. These are their slabs. This is their reputation. A reputation is like a brand--it sticks. They want to make these pretentious determinations on this arbitrary standard nobody including themselves can define in any rational, intelligible way, that's their business. More power to them. I disagree. I don't believe color, without more, should affect a coin's grade-worthiness. Hope that helps.

so from what ive read from my fellow coin collectors, i guess NGC only uses eye appeal for altered color designation.i find that incredible and disturbing..

i cant believe that they wouldnt have some kind of chemical testing .

 

thanks to all for the input.

I'll give you my honest opinion, but you're not going to like it. If you're asking a question like that, you're already gone. You need to lose the term "altered color" as a means of judging a coin's grade-worthiness. It's that simple.