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I was totally shocked and deeply saddened when I read that David had passed.  David and I first met at a coin show in Houston around 2005.  We shared a common interest in U.S. Philippine (USPI) coins and a conversation with David became an annual event at each Houston show.  For a few years NGC only sent a small contingent to accept coin submissions at that show, so David and I corresponded by email.  I began attending the annual ANA World's Fair of Money. in 2014 and our annual face to face conversations resumed. I worked with David multiple times concerning USPI varieties and we built a very good rapport. My favorite memory is of spending an hour with David at the ANA show in Denver going through all of my USPI variety coins looking for photo worthy specimens along with being told that some of my "varieties" were just normal coins with a various striking anomalies.  A fair number of the photos in in the USPI Variety Plus are of my coins.  My condolences to his family, his coworkers at NGC, and to all who knew him in our community. May he rest in peace.

On 8/23/2021 at 11:50 AM, LISA B said:

Hi!

I have sent you an email with instructions how to ship these back to us for repair.

Thanks,

Lisa

Thanks Lisa!

Last week, I received a box of freshly graded coins back from NGC.  I took the box from the postal worker, opened it and reviewed the coins as soon as they arrived.  There was of course, the normal mixture of joy and disappointment due to the assigned grades, colors, variety attribution (or lack thereof), and even the dreaded "DETAILS" designation.  This batch however came with a new rotation problem I had never seen before.  Of the 31 coins graded in this batch, only the two pictured below were so substantially rotated in their holders. They both look fine in the photos on the Verify NGC Certification Page, so I'm pretty sure they were fine when they left NGC..  The direct verification links are 2861766-017 and 2861766-018 for comparison to the photo below.  It seems like the inserts should hold the coins tightly enough in their holders so they don't rotate.

Is this sort of problem covered under the NGC guarantee?  Will NGC fix them for no additional charge?

Based on the title of your post, it sounds like you're not sure if this coin is genuine.  I don't know this coin, so I can't tell you if the potential "value bump" will justify the cost of grading.  This looks like one of those coins though that basically only has two grades.  MS/PF70 might be a home run, whereas MS/PF69 is probably a break even (financially speaking).  Anything less than 69 would be disappointing.  If you just want to know if it's authentic (i.e. not counterfeit), it would be a lot less expensive (and quicker) to take it to a local or national coin show and have it looked at by several reputable dealers or grading services.  Showing it to several local dealers would be the next best choice if there are no shows near you. The folks at your local coin club might also be able to help you verify it's authenticity.

Good luck with it.

The arrival date for packages that are currently being opened is shown just above the NGC Grading Tier table on the NGC Services and Fees page. As of this post, it states:

Now opening submissions delivered the week of May 31, 2021.

Thanks Dave!  Nice to know that for USA/Philippine coins, I can now make my choice of service (World/US) based on current turnaround times.

That's interesting. When I asked this same question (albeit many years ago), I was told to submit them as world coins.  I've been submitting US/Philippine coins as world coins for over ten years now, and even have a group at NGC right now submitted on a world coin submission form.  Did this policy change? If so, when?

Hi Ali,

I'd like to request a type set containing all of the Ethiopian coins dated EE1936(1943-1944).   The coins, with KM numbers and example NGC cert numbers, are as follows:

1. KM-32  EE1936 CENT            (3500145-053)
2. KM-33  EE1936 5C              (3497690-008)
3. KM-34  EE1936 10C             (3594917-029)
4. KM-35  EE1936 25C ROUND       (2846612-014)
5. KM-36  EE1936 25C CRIMPED     (4431273-007)
6. KM-37  EE1936 50C .800 SILVER (2105783-015)
7. KM-37a EE1936 50C .700 SILVER (4828657-008 .700 SILVER was not included on the label, but this was the first coin identified as KM-37a in the census)

Thanks,

Harry

Hi Ali,

I recently saw that you added the set "Peru - 2 Centavos, 1863-1879, Circulation Issue."  That's great, and I've already added coins to the new set.  There is one problem though. There are now three different 2 Centavos sets for Peru, but none of them include the 1895 2 Centavos.  It is the only one that has "fallen between the sets."

It would be great if you could also add a corresponding "Peru - Centavo, 1863-1877, Circulation Issue" set.  I have four coins listed below that would fit into the proposed set:

1. 2846612-015 - 1C 1863 6 INCUSE CORNUCOPIA LINES
2. 2837034-005 - 1C 1863 (5 INCUSE CORNUCOPIA LINES)
3. 2846612-016 - 1C 1864 COPPER NICKEL
4. 2797545-004 - 1C 1864 BRONZE

Thanks!

Good Morning Ali,

I would like to see some new sets for Peru covering at least the date range of 1918 through 1945.  The denominations are:

• 1 Centavo (Bronze)
• 2 Centavos (Bronze)
• 5 Centavos (Copper-Nickel & Brass)
• 10 Centavos (Copper-Nickel & Brass)
• 20 Centavos (Copper-Nickel & Brass)
• 1/2 Sol (Brass)
• 1 Sol (Brass)

Thanks!

Hi Ali,

I have requests with respect to sets for three countries:

Netherlands East Indies

It would be nice to have a set (or sets) that encompass all of the coins struck for the Netherlands East Indies by the U.S. Mints during World War II.  There are 19 coins dated from 1941 through 1945 and were struck by the Philadelphia, Denver, and San Francisco mints. The exact coins involved are included in my custom set: Netherlands East Indies - Minted by the U.S. Mint.

I know your preference is to create sets based on denomination over a period of years, but that will often exclude coins of historic and numismatic significance just because the denomination was only minted for one or two years. This particular group of coins includes at least one such coin and possibly two depending on how you define the time period.  The inclusion of a 20th Century Type set encompassing all denominations may solve that issue.  A set similar to the Curacao "1900-1948, Complete Circulation Issues" could work as well.

Netherlands

Please add a set for 25 Cent coins, similar  to the 10 Cent set.  A type set is OK, but a year based set would be preferable.  A set that includes the 1944P GULDEN coins (KM-161.1 and KM-161.2) would be nice too. Again, a multi-denomination type set would be a nice addition.

Ecuador

I really appreciate all of the new sets for Ecuador, but the 2 1/2 Centavo coins have been left out since they were only minted in 1917 and 1928.  The 1917 in particular is one of the key coins for Ecuadorian collectors. As above, the inclusion of a 20th Century Type set encompassing all denominations would allow these coins to participate in the Registry without having to create a two coin set for that denomination.

Thanks,

Harry

Hi Ali,

It would be nice to have an Ecuador set that included all of the coins struck for Ecuador by the United States Mint.  By year, these are:

• 1895 TF 2D PHILADELPHIA (KM-51.4)
• 1914 TF 2D PHILADELPHIA (KM-51.4)
• 1916 DECIMO PHILA (KM-50.5)
• 1916 TF 2D PHILADELPHIA (KM-51.4)
• 1917 2.5C (KM-61)
• 1917 5C (KM-60.2)
• 1918 5C (KM-60.2)
• 1918 10C (KM-62)
• 1928 1C (KM-67)
• 1928 2.5C (KM-68)
• 1928 5C (KM-69)
• 1928 10C (KM-70)
• 1928 50C PHILA USA (KM-71)
• 1928 SUCRE PHILA USA (KM-72)
• 1928 2S PHILA USA (KM-73)
• 1930 50C PHILA USA (KM-71)
• 1930 SUCRE PHILA USA (KM-72)
• 1930 2S PHILA USA (KM-73)
• 1934 SUCRE PHILA USA (KM-72)
• 1942 5C (KM-75a)
• 1942 10C (KM-76a)
• 1942 20C (KM-77.1a)
• 1944D 5C (KM-75a)
• 1944D 20C (KM-77.1a)
• 1946 5C (KM-75b)
• 1946 10C (KM-76b)
• 1946 20C (KM-77.1b)
• 1946 SUCRE (KM-78.2)

This is basically my custom set "Ecuador - Struck by U.S. Mints" minus the 1919 Providence Mint issues and the 1917 error coin.

Thanks!

The following is a reply I made to journal post from early this morning on this same topic. This has now become the dominant thread, so I am re-posting it here:

I too find this policy change disheartening. There were many reasons I chose the NGC registry over PCGS, but the major one was the inclusiveness of both NGC and PCGS graded coins.

 

The quantity of coins in my areas of interest is very small. For example, the complete NGC population for the U.S./Philippine 1915S Ten Centavos is 10, with only two graded MS60 or above. The total PCGS population on the other hand is more than two and a half times greater at 26 with 14 graded above MS60. Two of the lowest graded NGC coins are mine, and the only reason I decided to have them graded was because these coins just do not come up for sale very often. There was simply no other way to complete my online set.

 

There are currently 16 distinct Ten Centavo set owners, so with the new restriction, there can be at most 10 complete sets. The fine print of this new restriction did however provide for grandfathering all PCGS slabbed coins currently in NGC Registry sets. (I wish NGC had done this for the World sets a few years ago.) I am assuming that as long as you don't remove a PCGS graded coin from one of your sets, it can remain there indefinitely.

 

My U.S./Philippine sets contain roughly 33% PCGS graded coins, and I currently have no plans to remove them or cross them to NGC unless there is some seriously compelling financial incentive to do so. I will continue to look for a mint state 1915S Ten Centavo coin regardless of the plastic it is encapsulated in. At this point in time though, the odds are seven to one that it will be in a PCGS slab.

 

If I can find upgrades in PCGS slabs, so be it. If there are enough of them, I'll just create parallel Custom sets to highlight my best overall collection. I still enjoy collecting and will continue to do so regardless of online policies that I can not control.

 

I can understand that NGC believes that they do a better job of grading than anyone else. Honestly, would you really want to send your coins to a company that did not believe that? I think they could have taken a little less heavy handed approach with the Registry though. For example, NGC could assert their superiority and still allow PCGS coins to participate in the NGC Registry by discounting the points earned by some percentage, say 10%. I hope they read this and consider an alternative to complete exclusivity.

Hi Ali,

Thank you for adding sets for the Philippines to the World Registry. There are however a few issues with at least two of these sets as detailed below:

[font:Courier New]Republic, 1947-1967, Complete Circulation Issue

• 1947 50 Centavos (MacArthur) - KM-184 slot is missing, needs to be added.
  
• 1947 Peso ...... (MacArthur) - KM-185 slot is present, but there are no scores and a coin cannot be added.
  
• 1966 25 Centavos ........... - KM-189.1 and KM-189.2 One slot is present, but there are two distinct types minted by different mints and they look significantly different.
  
• 1961 Half Peso ..... (Rizal) - KM-191 slot is present, but there are no scores and a coin cannot be added.
  
• 1961 Peso .......... (Rizal) - KM-192 slot is present, but there are no scores and a coin cannot be added.
  
• 1963 Peso ...... (Bonifacio) - KM-193 slot is present, but there are no scores and a coin cannot be added.
  
• 1964 Peso ......... (Mabini) - KM-194 slot is present, but there are no scores and a coin cannot be added.
  
• 1967 Peso ......... (Bataan) - KM-195 slot is present, but there are no scores and a coin cannot be added.
  

Silver Commemoratives, 1947-1999, Circulation

• 1947 50 Centavos (MacArthur) - KM-184 (Silver) slot is missing, needs to be added.
  
• 1961 Half Peso ..... (Rizal) - KM-191 (Silver) slot is missing, needs to be added.
  
• 1969 Piso ...... (Aguinaldo) - KM-201 (Silver) slot is missing, needs to be added.
  
• 1970 Piso ... (Pope Paul VI) - KM-202a (Silver) slot is missing, needs to be added.
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Best Regards,

coin928