TheMightyDuke

Oh, before you 'tackle' the knowledge of someone with obviously superior knowledge (through lots of reading, homework in the hobby), you might be taken more seriously if you called 'pennys' by their technical name...cents (actually, if you really want to get technical, it's spelled 'pennies'). Everytime I hear the word 'penny', I think of my grandmother referring to them as 'pennies'.

With 18 posts in about ONE YEAR, you MAY want to get more involved before you contradict a member who participates frequently, and who DOES have the right answer....he knows what he's talking about.

edited to add.....I'm QUITE SURE kurtdog has coins nicer than 'pennies' that won't grade, due to 'altered color'......sorry, that term makes me laugh.....also, if you can look at 6 'pennies' and not tell the difference, except a 'smudge', you need to learn basic terminology, for starters, in order to be taken seriously, and read as much as you can, and learn to grade yourself...your comparison of the 6 makes it look like the only way you can grade is by relying on the number on the slab (no offense) . And, questioning someone like kurtdog, without proper knowledge, is not a positive step forward in YOUR trying to learn about this hobby. YOU think you have 6 'pennys' you can grade, yet can only differentiate by a 'smudge'???......thats why we have NGC and PCGS.....and if you disagree with their decision, you can always send them back in to see what they say about your 'pennys' the second time around.

hello coinman

 

i agree and understand what you are saying.

the problem is that the coins that were graded as altered,look like good coins.

i put six MS coins together to see if i could tell the difference,three altered and three good ones.the only thing i could see is maybe a smudge mark.these are pennys im talking about. if i had a camera i would take a picture and post it.

as far as im concerned i think KURTDOG is wrong about grade worthyness not being a factor.

if he has any coins he would know that.

"Lets get ready to rummmmmmmmbbbbllle!'

I think kurtdog has a better than average handle on things...he's WAY more than capable of explaining/understanding 'gradeworthyness'....'altered color' is not a 'determination' of bodybagging, or 'net grade'...altered SURFACE is.....QUESTIONABLE color is......QUESTIONABLE authenticity is, but I've never heard of altered color.

Methinks someone else needs to understand why a coin does not get a numerical grade , or it's 'gradeworthyness' (and it's gradeworthiness, no 'y', but an 'i'). Just sayin'....and it's probably not a great idea to question/slam the opinion of someone obviously as well-versed in the hobby as kurtdog is.