...unfamiliar with the relative rarity of coins in ur set...the coins of different dates do not compete with each other rather they compete with other coins of the same date for points...

On 4/12/2024 at 12:50 PM, zadok said:

...unfamiliar with the relative rarity of coins in ur set...the coins of different dates do not compete with each other rather they compete with other coins of the same date for points...

I hear you, but this isn't a situation like having a Mercury Dime slot in a US type set where you could have something like a 1916 vs a dirt common date.

There's no significant difference in rarity or desirability of the 2014 vs the 2017. I have several of each, including a 2017 that I seriously considered grading last year but I chose not to because I was already sending in a lot and I wasn't sufficiently convinced that that 2017 would beat the MS66 I had on my 2014 by more than maybe a point, so I chose not to send it. If they don't change this scoring, I'm probably just going to send in that 2017 with some Turtle coins in June. But, while that would put me back in competition, it still leaves us with a situation where that one coin just ruins the entire set. That one coin in MS64 is now worth more than 95% complete set in fairly high grade, and it's worth more by a factor of 6, even with me having that MS69 $2 Bond coin. Without that MS69 a 95% complete set loses to that 1 coin by about 9:1. That completely fails to reflect the relative rarity and desirability of different coins in that set. The 1997 $2 coin is FAR harder to get in good condition than the 2017 50C. They give my 1997 $2 in MS64... a whooping 16 points, currently.

Again, that score is just... silly.

...interesting n confounding as well...have u questioned ngc registry as to the why for this high points awarded to that specific coin?...their reply should be enlightening either way....

3,600 points! 

Guess I was wrong about Xanno not being a threat. 

Seems like an obvious mistake which I'm sure will be corrected very soon. 

On 4/12/2024 at 4:39 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

3,600 points! 

Guess I was wrong about Xanno not being a threat. 

Seems like an obvious mistake which I'm sure will be corrected very soon. 

Interestingly, numista does suggest the 2014 is much more common, but you'll nice the 2017 is marked as being worth even less. Because even in 2014, but certainly by 2017 these things were just being grabbed up by the bulk to sell to collectors. So I wouldn't put it past someone to just see a low mintage and slap some insane value on it, but a relatively low mintage does not mean it's rare with these things. 🙄

I see that NGC corrected the points for the bond coin. 

Worse case you could have jumped on the ZiG coins when they come out, might not be to long of a wait since they have put the ZiG banknotes into circulation now or at least plan too on April 30th.

On 4/19/2024 at 4:22 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

I see that NGC corrected the points for the bond coin. 

Worse case you could have jumped on the ZiG coins when they come out, might not be to long of a wait since they have put the ZiG banknotes into circulation now or at least plan too on April 30th.

Huh, I guess I've been sleeping on the "Zimbabwe Gold" stuff. I hadn't seen anything about it until this post. The new coins and notes will be interesting additions to what I've built on the NGC and PMG sides, but I'm not seeing any images of the new notes so far. Maybe we'll see more when they start hitting the streets in 10 days or shortly thereafter. But I think they're fooling themselves if they think this will work or the 5th or 6th time is the charm.

I guess we'll see if we only get the quarter and half  ZiG coins or we get a 1 ZiG, 2 ZiG, or 5 ZiG as the currency drops but they aren't quite willing to call it a flop yet.

On 4/20/2024 at 7:46 PM, Revenant said:

Huh, I guess I've been sleeping on the "Zimbabwe Gold" stuff. I hadn't seen anything about it until this post. The new coins and notes will be interesting additions to what I've built on the NGC and PMG sides, but I'm not seeing any images of the new notes so far. Maybe we'll see more when they start hitting the streets in 10 days or shortly thereafter. But I think they're fooling themselves if they think this will work or the 5th or 6th time is the charm.

I guess we'll see if we only get the quarter and half  ZiG coins or we get a 1 ZiG, 2 ZiG, or 5 ZiG as the currency drops but they aren't quite willing to call it a flop yet.

Sounded like they got themselves some gold, 250MM or so, and are backing the notes and coins with it. So it is not a fiat currency.? 250MM is not much, these notes and coins could be hard to come by if they are capping the release of all notes and coins to that number. 

On 4/21/2024 at 8:56 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Sounded like they got themselves some gold, 250MM or so, and are backing the notes and coins with it. So it is not a fiat currency.? 250MM is not much, these notes and coins could be hard to come by if they are capping the release of all notes and coins to that number. 

Comically and tragically, the notes and coins are still 4 days from release and the currency is still dropping like a rock bs the dollar and most are calling this DOA. The mintage might be limited but it think you'll still have a bunch get grabbed up immediate by large dealers and the collector base for those is thin now that we're 15 years on from the peak of the hypertension.

I don't think I'll have a very hard time getting my hands on some at a decent price from certain sellers.