Flowing Hair Dollar with Silver Plug

[Higashiyama]

Three related questions. Thanks for any input!

 

(1) How many of these coins are believed to exist? Reiver suggests that only 30 - 50 may have been minted. Could this possibly be correct? Does he mean that 30 - 50 are believed to exist?

 

(2) Also, is it possible that populations are understated, because in some cases the plug was so obscured by striking that it is difficult to determine that it is there?

 

(3) NGC does not seem to list these in their populations. Do they not attribute these, or have they simply not received any for grading.

[keithdagen]

I just did a Heritage auction archive search, and saw only ANACS and PCGS examples of the piece. Doesn't mean that NGC doesn't grade them necessarily.

[Tradedollarnut]

I was at Legend's table a few years back when they were viewing a dollar they'd just bought for Phil Flannagan's collection. They excitedly discovered it was a silver plug but was not so designated on the holder (PCGS). So I'm quite certain that there are more out there that aren't so designated.

[DWLange]

NGC does identify silver-plugged dollars when they're submitted under our VarietyPlus service. There are presently eleven examples within our Census Report.

[EVillageProwler]

Reiver meant 30-50 pieces believed extant, not minted...

 

BTW, Reiver's book is poorly regarded by the ED specialists for census information. It's excellent for variety attribution, and ok for die state information.

 

EVP

 

[michael]

that wasa greaqt thread i personally believe just baswed on what i have seen and heard that i would estimate that there are like closer to 100 or maybe a little more? out there silver plugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think the current 30 to 50 is way low but like everything else there haS TO BE A STARETING POINMT AND WITH MANY LOOKING YOU WILL SEE MORE "DISCOBERED BUT FOR ME AT LEAST 100 Are out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

SINCERELY MICHAEL but like everything else talk is cheap and maybe within the next ten years or so at pcgs ngc icg pci etc etc and anx we will see more i think so

 

sincerely and early numismatically yours michael

[Higashiyama]

How about flowing hair half dollars with silver plug? I believe these exist but are much less common than the dollars?

[keithdagen]

RedBook includes the Flowing Hair half dollars with plug as a footnote, not even attempting to give a value.

[EVillageProwler]

As I recall, there are perhaps 3 or so known plugged halves. If I'm wrong, I don't think by enough not to say that there's precious of them known!

 

If silver plugs are your thing, then I suggest that you buy the first one offered to you!

 

EVP

 

[GDJMSP]

There is one going up for sale at the FUN show.

[Higashiyama]

Is that a silver plug half being sold at the FUN show, or a dollar? In any case, can you give me more information? Thanks.

[GDJMSP]

It is a dollar. Sorry - can't remember who it was that is going to offer it - just that they are.

[EVillageProwler]

``BTW, reiver's book is poorly regarded by the ED specialists for census information. It's excellent for variety attribution, and ok for die state information.''

 

Ughhhhh... What was I thinking? I was just attributing an ED that a dealer had on their web site. Since the Reiver book is much thinner than the Bowers book, I decided to use that. Guess what?!? Reiver used the same coin for the obv plate for the 1795 Bol.6 and Bol.13.

 

THE SAME COIN!!!

 

BTW, those two varieties actually did share the same obv die, but Bol.13 came first and is an early die state. This is important because Bol.6a is also of that same early die state, and is an R.7 instead of an R.3 (for the Bol.6).

 

EVP