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Bust lovers, I need help figuring out hub design types

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Souder says in his book that for 1825 there are two hub designs, sub-design type #4 and sub-design type #5. Can anyone here help me figure out if this 1825 is sub-design 4 or 5?



And for the 1829 he says there are two obverse types; sub design type #5 of 1825-1831 and sub-design type #6 of 1826-1830. Can anyone tell me which design this one is?




James..anyone??? frustrated.gif

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