Any idea when NGC and PCGS started to grade ultra cameo on SMS

[airedale-migration]

Does anyone have any idea at what period of time that NGC and/or PCGS started using the ultra or deep cameo grade on sealed mint set ( SMS ) coins. Somewhere along the way I read that the deep or ultra cameo grade was not in use early on.

Thanks,

John

[Bruceswar]

I wish I could help you on this one but can't. Just wanted to say Welcome

[Allan Ong]

Is there even such a thing as a UCAM/DCAM uncirculated? I thought UCAM/DCAM was only for proofs? I know the MS could have PL (Prooflike)...

[Grumps]

Does anyone have any idea at what period of time that NGC and/or PCGS started using the ultra or deep cameo grade on sealed mint set ( SMS ) coins. Somewhere along the way I read that the deep or ultra cameo grade was not in use early on.

 

SMS coins are considered mint state. Ultra and deep cameo is a proof designation. For the mint state coins you would get a Proof Like (PL) or Deep Mirror Proof Like (DMPL) designation rather than the proof designations.

 

Greg

[Stanley]

1965, 1966, & 1967 SMS can come MS designation or Cameo and Ultra Cameo

 

Edited to add: You can find them in the NGC Registry Sets under Special Mint Sets

[Jazzy]

NGC does in fact give Cameo designations to SMS coins of certain dates.

 

Here's one on Teletrade, for example.

 

 

Grumps: you are right in general however.

 

An astute question, John. As to when they started doing it, you might get an answer on the "Ask NGC forum."

 

Click here for the "Ask NGC" forum.

 

And welcome to the boards.

[jgrinz]

Yikes that is a new one to me