MS69 = Full Strike FT=Full Strike MS69=FT

[ronday]

 

How is it possible for a dime to get a MS69 grade and not be FT?

 

Worse yet would be a MS70 FT.

 

Am I missing something here?

[HaydenTubbs]

More money for the grading companies.

[Stanley]

The obverse is nicer than the reverse ? No Full Torch

[gmarguli]

You're assuming that the original die had this detail engraved into it. Or that part of the die could have become worn.

[ronday]

How can a coin be "fully struck" with a worn die? If the Die is worn the results aren't that much better than a weak strike (I know they are different, but isn't that microscope stuff?)

[PandaMan-migration]

My understanding, from The Experts Guide to Collecting & Investing in Rare Coins (by Q. David Bowers), is that a coins grade has to do with "preservation" of the coin, not the strike in and of itself.

Many coins, particularly from the early mint days, were weakly struck but can be graded MS68+.

Look at some of the Morgans, weak strikes but still MS69, 68, 67, etc. So if the dime in question is in very good condition, but weak bands or torch, it "can" still get a very high grade.

In the book, he comes up with the idea of FD (Full Details) for coins with all parts fully struck. Of course, we should keep the FBL (Full Bell Lines on the Franklin Halves), FT & FB (Full torch & bands on the dimes), FS (Full Steps on the cents & nickels), etc., as well as the FD designation.

 

Gary

[ronday]

My understanding, from The Experts Guide to Collecting & Investing in Rare Coins (by Q. David Bowers), is that a coins grade has to do with "preservation" of the coin, not the strike in and of itself.

Many coins, particularly from the early mint days, were weakly struck but can be graded MS68+.

Look at some of the Morgans, weak strikes but still MS69, 68, 67, etc. So if the dime in question is in very good condition, but weak bands or torch, it "can" still get a very high grade.

In the book, he comes up with the idea of FD (Full Details) for coins with all parts fully struck. Of course, we should keep the FBL (Full Bell Lines on the Franklin Halves), FT & FB (Full torch & bands on the dimes), FS (Full Steps on the cents & nickels), etc., as well as the FD designation.

 

Gary

 

I believe that the definition of MS68 - 70 here and at PCGS includes a phrase that states "must be fully struck" of course this begs the question: Can a coin be fully struck with worn dies?