Here's one for you toner guys........

[relicsncoins]

It almost looks too good to be true. I'm not sure if that is a scratch on the reverse about 10 oclock. If it is, you would think it would be hard pressed to get a 65 grade.

 

Jason

 

Moster

[relicsncoins]

I just looked at the larger images, and that appears to be a die crack.

 

JJ

[kryptonitecomics]

Quite nice....Adrian has some real monsters in his inventory if you have the cash

[IGWT]

[rexcat]

Great poll IGWT!

[truthteller]

Howabout:

 

Coin purchased from reputable Bay Area coin dealer.

 

 

 

TRUTH

[IGWT]

Coin purchased from reputable Bay Area coin dealer.

 

You may place that vote under either option 3 or option 4.

[Ed Daggett]

Voted for #4, I cannot afford an opinion on that coin.

[Jazzy]

Voted for #4, I cannot afford an opinion on that coin.

 

 

And here I was thinking that I couldn't afford just the coin.

[James_OldeTowne]

I voted for "Cleaned & Retoned", but hear me out. I chose it out of default, rather than for technical reasons. Personally, I believe that in grades of AU or above, virtually every coin dated 1839 or earlier has been cleaned, so I always assume that such a coin has been cleaned, and all subsequent toning is actually "retoning".

 

In this case, I think the coin was retoned naturally, sitting in an album.

 

But I have no doubt there is a coin doctor somewhere who has successfully duplicated this toning perfectly.

 

James

[James_OldeTowne]

By the way, I just noticed that the description implies that the coin is nearly fully struck. It appears to be only a very average strike to me, and this would be supported by the fact that the reverse was struck with a partially shattered die, which almost by definition cannot impart a full strike (or even be close).

 

But that's just a technicality. It does look like a gorgeous coin .

 

James

[TJ'S Coins]

I believe that line at 11:00 PM on the reverse is a die crack. The toning appears to be caused from an album and neither a liquid or directional gas. Quite an interesting shade of green!

[Newmismatist]

I voted for "Cleaned & Retoned", but hear me out. I chose it out of default, rather than for technical reasons. Personally, I believe that in grades of AU or above, virtually every coin dated 1839 or earlier has been cleaned, so I always assume that such a coin has been cleaned, and all subsequent toning is actually "retoning".

 

In this case, I think the coin was retoned naturally, sitting in an album.

 

 

I voted voted natural toning. Why? A gut reaction from the look of the coin - looks very much like an original "skin" on the coin and then it sat in an album for many years to get the additional peripheral toning. Cleaned coins that re-tone usualy have unnatural grey-white centers. while it is true that MANY coins dated 1839 or earlier has been cleaned, you cannot conclude that ALL coins have been cleaned. If that were so there would be no "Virgins" So, if you "always assume that such a coin has been cleaned", you will be wrong some of the time.

 

I think the coin was naturally toned and than at some point, placed in an album.

 

But I have no doubt there is a coin doctor somewhere who has successfully duplicated this toning perfectly.

 

They may try, but they never get it "Perfectly" - their success is determined by whether they can slip it by 3 graders at the one of the major grading services - THAT does not equate to "Perfect" in my mind - but then I look at the coin, independent of the plastic opinion.