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Thank You Kryptonitecomics and an Apology

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Die Varieties

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I would like to thank Shane for the below photos from 3 of my coins I had sent him. Beautifully done and very professional all-the-way. A big THANK YOU Shane!

 

I apologize to forum members Ron and Tom for my remarks the other day in a different post. I'm a beginner in this toning and don't know anything from an AT to an NT, whether attractive from an unattractive, and so forth. I hope that both of you can accept my sincere apology.

 

I have put on armour skin -- so say whatever you feel about these 3 coins. A 1909 VDB, a 1953-D Roosey and a common date 1970-S Lg/Dt cent.

 

Thanks again Shane for the photography ...

 

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chinook

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Shane took those pics? I don't believe it. wink.gifsmile.gif

 

The color of the 09 Lincoln looks a little funky but the others look great.

 

The problem with message boards is that it is very difficult to communicate the tone of a conversation, or to express much emotion. Oftentimes I am afraid that I will upset someone with a comment, even though that is not the intent. Without seeing the other persons face or body language, it can be difficult to distinguish between a joke or a disparaging remark. My feeling is that 99% of the members of this board are very genuine and honest.

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Stanley

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Funny how good images can make all the difference in the world when it comes to showing coins, and especially the smaller cents and dimes.

I think they are gorgeous, and the images are fantastic. thumbsup2.gif

 

As far as any AT or NT, someone with more knoledge than me will have to comment.

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I would like to thank Shane for the below photos from 3 of my coins I had sent him. Beautifully done and very professional all-the-way. A big THANK YOU Shane!

 

I apologize to forum members Ron and Tom for my remarks the other day in a different post. I'm a beginner in this toning and don't know anything from an AT to an NT, whether attractive from an unattractive, and so forth. I hope that both of you can accept my sincere apology.

 

I have put on armour skin -- so say whatever you feel about these 3 coins. A 1909 VDB, a 1953-D Roosey and a common date 1970-S Lg/Dt cent.

 

Thanks again Shane for the photography ...

 

1909scanvasp1.jpg

 

1953dcanvasp1.jpg

 

1970scanvasp1.jpg

 

 

I think the 1909 seems AT...just looks funky. It may well be NT...but the color would concern me.

 

The other two look pretty nice to me, the Roosie in particular. In my mind they appear NT.

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Murphy-migration

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I have an '09 VDB with similar toning that I know is all natural because I watched it gradually turn deeper in tone in my Dansco album as over 10-years have passed. That's a nice bulls-eye toner.

The photos are simply gorgeous. Wish mine could reproduce colors as well. Good job.

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Personally, I think the VDB is AT - BUT that it WOULD get certified if you sent it in. The other two coins appear natural to me. I think ALL of them would certify. And I happen to think all three are very attractive coins.

 

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I don't care if they are AT or NT. They are beautiful. If their pace of toning has slowed to that of any NT piece (and I suppose only you can evaluate that), then they'll be wonderful to have in your collection. With the proper chemical rinsing (acetone or xylene), then anything foreign left on the surface will likely be removed and they'll stay as-is for years to come under the right conditions.

 

The problem with message boards is that it is very difficult to communicate the tone of a conversation, or to express much emotion. Oftentimes I am afraid that I will upset someone with a comment, even though that is not the intent. Without seeing the other persons face or body language, it can be difficult to distinguish between a joke or a disparaging remark. My feeling is that 99% of the members of this board are very genuine and honest.

 

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Thanks for the compliment Billy and company....having those Lincolns raw certainly helped in the imaging process!!!!

 

Here was my favorite pictures of the 1970-S!!!:

 

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I love photographing pretty coins and all of these fit the category.....but the way I think the 1909 is NT....sure looks it in hand hail.gif

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Die Varieties

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The two Lincolns are raw. The 1953-D is slabbed (ANACS). Would anybody care to guess the grade for the Roosey? I will reveal the grade later.

 

This is another photo Shane took on the Roosey. It appears to me this angle of photo accent the highlights of the colors more than the other photo posted? Am I thinking correctly on that Shane? Compare the two obverse photos.

 

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Yes the first is a luster shot which uses more light which tends to bleach out the color somewhat and the second is what I call a color shot. Diffused lighting is used with a slight angle which makes the awesome color more appearant but also makes it necessary to adjust the contrast of the photo so it does look like the image was taken through Cheese cloth thumbsup2.gif

 

In reality the coin is somewhere in between the two images. I'll see if I can get a better color/luster shot tonight before I ship it back thumbsup2.gif

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Don't worry about it Billy, it happens to all of us on ocassion. smile.gif

 

The Roosevelt and Memorial cent are without a dout NT but the Wheat cent has a slightly odd look to it. It may be completely NT, but it also has the feel of a coin that had some of its surfaces stripped at one point and then toned again.

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EZ_E

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Don't worry about it Billy, it happens to all of us on ocassion.

 

Yep, I recently posted the KrispyKreme's calendar girls on the babe test and got flamed. I replied in anger, "Bite me you prudish 893censored-thumb.gif's!" but I went back and toned down the statement. Good thing for the edit feature.

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Hi Billy -- I have no confidence in my ability to distinguish AT from NT in many cases. In fact, I think that what qualifies as AT versus NT is an open question. So, if I ever opine on a question of toning, disregard what I say.

 

I like the dime. grin.gif

 

I also like your ability to step forward with an apology. thumbsup2.gif

 

Edited to add: Nice job with the pix, Shane.

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and finally....one more in focus shot of the 1970-S Lincoln......this image has not been played with.....the coin is neon red and Green and probably glows in the dark hail.gifhail.gifhail.gif

 

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Well - Stuff happens and we move on - I was somewhat perplexed in the other post because I gave the best response I could with what I thought was a helpful comment - and got a somewaht hostile response - even after an explanation.

 

As for these coins - here's my best estimate based on the images I see -

 

The Roosie has all the indications of a NT coin - I see nothing that gives me reason to question it. The Lincoln Memorial also looks like coins that I have seen that are indicative of a NT coin. The 09-VDB appears to have been cleaned (probably dipped at 1 time) anf then put in an album and now has toned from being in the album - there is a tell-tale maker on the Obv - the little spot just to the right of the ear (it shows up more in the second picture) - the coin likely could slab, but there is an indication of a former cleaning. All in all, a nice group of coins and excellent pictures - As Shane has seen them in hand, he is in a better position to tell us whether the coins appear to be naturally toned and I would defer to him on that. What I have said is based on the digital images that I see on my computer screen.

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Here's one personalized for Billy so no one can steal his image and sell that fake coin toner on Ebay... 27_laughing.gif27_laughing.gif27_laughing.gif

 

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Thanks for the coin, Billy. wink.gif

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The problem with message boards is that it is very difficult to communicate the tone of a conversation, or to express much emotion. Oftentimes I am afraid that I will upset someone with a comment, even though that is not the intent. Without seeing the other persons face or body language, it can be difficult to distinguish between a joke or a disparaging remark. My feeling is that 99% of the members of this board are very genuine and honest.

 

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The problem with message boards is that it is very difficult to communicate the tone of a conversation, or to express much emotion. Oftentimes I am afraid that I will upset someone with a comment, even though that is not the intent. Without seeing the other persons face or body language, it can be difficult to distinguish between a joke or a disparaging remark. My feeling is that 99% of the members of this board are very genuine and honest.

 

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On that note, Michael. &^$^&)_*%#(^__)($%#%&

 

with love,

 

Victor

 

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On that note, Michael. &^$^&)_*%#(^__)($%#%&

 

with love,

 

Victor

 

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And Victor I've been meaning to say this to you about all those nasty comments you've said about me: &^$^&)_*%#(^__)($%#%& wink.gif

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On that note, Michael. &^$^&)_*%#(^__)($%#%&

 

with love,

 

Victor

 

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And Victor I've been meaning to say this to you about all those nasty comments you've said about me: &^$^&)_*%#(^__)($%#%& wink.gif

 

But, but, I only meant half of them. grin.gif

 

You did do something that ticked me off a while back but I'll be darned if I can remember what it was. So, no harm no foul. tongue.gif

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On that note, Michael. &^$^&)_*%#(^__)($%#%&

 

with love,

 

Victor

 

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And Victor I've been meaning to say this to you about all those nasty comments you've said about me: &^$^&)_*%#(^__)($%#%& wink.gif

 

 

Oh! And love out to you, too, Ron. crazy.gif

 

 

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I'm feelin' the love! headbang.gif

 

Now why don't we post another controverisal thread so that things can get back to normal. yeahok.gif

 

Billy,of all your beautiful toners,that 1970-S Lincoln beats them flat! thumbsup2.gif

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I'm feelin' the love! headbang.gif

 

Now why don't we post another controverisal thread so that things can get back to normal. yeahok.gif

 

Billy,of all your beautiful toners,that 1970-S Lincoln beats them flat! thumbsup2.gif

 

The '70-S in now in someone else personal collection. I know it has a perfect toning home. The '09VDB I believe has some suspect cleaning as pointed out. Whether it would slab or not -- I don't know.

 

The Roosey is slabbed ANACS MS-66 FSB. IMO -- I believe it is graded too high. Before I sent it to be slabbed I thought it would be a solid 64 or maybe squeek a low end 65. But not a 66? So, I have a question about that -- with the toning on the Roosey, does that have an influence and/or impact on the TPG technical grade? Did the toning per se hide some imperfections/blemishes/contact marks that otherwise I would have thought to have lowered the coin to a more correct grade assignment? Does this happen frequently with TPGs involving toned coins submitted for encapsulation?

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