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ANACS New Holder

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Die Varieties

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ANACS has officially posted on their Web page detailed information and high quality photos of their new holders. Since many of you know I'm involved with die varieties, I have used ANACS quite extensively for many years. However, I'm not too sure yet of this new holder. Maybe it's a case of it will grow on me.

 

What do you think of their "ClearViewTM" new holder?

 

Here's a link to their Web page: ANACS New Holder Web Page

 

edited to add: That 1881-S is a pretty nice looking toned Morgan! That yours Shane?

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they aren't sealed that well.

 

 

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It's the truth Hayden. In my post about having one in hand I mentioned how with little pressure from a C clamp the slab would split in half. The following post at PCGS from nencoin proved my suspicion

 

the biggest drawback is that you can crack them open with your bare hands. All of them had small cracks just from shipping them once, and when you twist the coin in your hands, you can hear the slab cracking apart.
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Which infers that they would offer very little protection to the environment.

 

TPGS's need to focus on their slabs providing long term protection and accurate grading if they want to be around for the long haul.

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I think the new ANACS Holder is number one on the market today. I also asked them about their "First Strikes" requirements and unlike NGC collectors can submit individual coins that meet First Strike guidelines. NGC currently requires a minimum of 100 coin submissions at a time for a First Strkes designation. The response I received stated that it is not logisticaly possible to switch labels for an individual coin submission. That seems like a lame bit of rationale. I refuse to go through a 3rd party to obtain this First Strikes designation and pay an additional fee. I intend to send my Proof gold coins to ANACS for grading and "First Strikes designation. I also like the top view of the ANACS holder as you can easily identify the coin you want to look at. An NGC "First Strikes" designation simply means a large dealer submitted the coin along with at least 99 others. :signrant:

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I think the new ANACS Holder is number one on the market today. I also asked them about their "First Strikes" requirements and unlike NGC collectors can submit individual coins that meet First Strike guidelines. NGC currently requires a minimum of 100 coin submissions at a time for a First Strkes designation. The response I received stated that it is not logisticaly possible to switch labels for an individual coin submission. That seems like a lame bit of rationale. I refuse to go through a 3rd party to obtain this First Strikes designation and pay an additional fee. I intend to send my Proof gold coins to ANACS for grading and "First Strikes designation. I also like the top view of the ANACS holder as you can easily identify the coin you want to look at. An NGC "First Strikes" designation simply means a large dealer submitted the coin along with at least 99 others. sign-rantpost.gif

 

Do you mean you have to submit at least 100 coins? If so this of course makes sense. NGC's explanation of how coins are designated as First Strikes is as follows

 

"NGC designates as first strikes bullion issue American Eagles (Gold, Silver, and Platinum) that are submitted in their original sealed mint packaging, with intact date tags indicating that they were struck and packaged prior to January 31 of the enclosed coins' dated year."

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Golly guys you got to give them a A for effort, they at least are trying to improve on there dull little holders! It may have some flaws but all in all its a lot nicer than the little white thing!

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Golly guys you got to give them a A for effort, they at least are trying to improve on there dull little holders! It may have some flaws but all in all its a lot nicer than the little white thing!

 

I don't know if they would get an A but you can definetly see what they were aiming for. However it's just a very flawed execution.

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"the biggest drawback is that you can crack them open with your bare hands. All of them had small cracks just from shipping them once, and when you twist the coin in your hands, you can hear the slab cracking apart."

 

That's certainly not encouraging news. Though I haven't had an opportunity to actually see one in hand, so far I'm not impressed. Since I'm involved a lot with varieties, I can more than appreciate their having a larger insert affording more attribution designations. However, the color and font leave a lot desired IMO. Could there be storm clouds over the horizon on their new day dawning?

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I saw their display at the FUN show. I thought they looked fine, but I was distracted admiring the Bowers/Sunnywood shield nickels that were in them. I felt I could really appreciate the coins in the that slab.

 

The observations about the color and fonts have merit. The observation about their lack of durability would concern me.

 

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Just got my first coins back from ANACS today in the new holders.

 

One big disadvantage I see is that they don't have any tracks on them that you can use to stack them. They also look like they would scratch easily, but I'm not about to test that out.

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Just got my first coins back from ANACS today in the new holders.

 

Are you satisfied with the grades and attributions? When will ANACS be adopting S- numbers. grin.gif

 

By the way, I just finished reorganizing my collection based on SNV (Shield Nickel Viewer) numbers. I feel good that the current attribution numbers need not change with new finds.

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That 1881-S is a pretty nice looking toned Morgan! That yours Shane?

 

You mean this one?

 

Shane dreams about that coin - but it's mine! cool.gif

 

 

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Ok...yes I do frustrated.gif

 

 

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Just got my first coins back from ANACS today in the new holders.

 

One big disadvantage I see is that they don't have any tracks on them that you can use to stack them. They also look like they would scratch easily, but I'm not about to test that out.

 

Thanks -- that answered my question about stacking.

 

893scratchchin-thumb.gif Don't stack, fugly insert color/fonts, easy to scratch, easy to crack (during shipping no less). WTF?

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Just got my first coins back from ANACS today in the new holders.

 

Are you satisfied with the grades and attributions? When will ANACS be adopting S- numbers. grin.gif

 

By the way, I just finished reorganizing my collection based on SNV (Shield Nickel Viewer) numbers. I feel good that the current attribution numbers need not change with new finds.

 

The attributions that ANACS did were just fine. Or, perhaps I should say, the fact that they agreed with my attributions in all cases worked out fine. Two of the coins that I sent were shield nickel plate coins. (I like to get plate coins slabbed so that the provenance is established on the holder.) I did not have any evidence that the coins were plate coins other than comparing them to photos in books. I sent a letter to ANACS telling them where to look for photo correspondences. They put both of the coins in holders marked "Plate", so I was happy with that.

 

As far as grades, here's what I had:

 

Coin My Grade Their Grade

1868 FS-002.98 plate AU-55 EF-45 (groan)

1876 PM 11.4 plate EF-40 EF-40

1883 FS-013 AU-50 AU-55 (smile)

1866 S1-3013 AU-58 AU-58

1867WR MS-62 MS details, cleaned (big groan)

 

I suggested to ANACS that they put the S1-3013 attribution on the '66RPD, but they didn't bite.

 

Regarding the attribution numbers changing: I went through multiple revisions trying to figure out a numbering scheme for SNV that was logically consistent and expandable for new varieties. The current scheme isn't perfect, but it's not bad.

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They put both of the coins in holders marked "Plate", so I was happy with that.

 

That's cool. thumbsup2.gif Fletcher plates?

 

Not Fletcher, plates to the attributions I cited. CPG for the FS-002.98, P&M for the PM-011.4.

 

Fletcher doesn't cover the FS-002.98. The PM-011.4 was listed as a cross to FS-012.1 and F-05 in P&M, but it turns out that it's a slightly different coin. PM-011.4 is S1-1003, FS-012.1 is S1-1001.

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