Did ANACS overgrade this coin?

[HaydenTubbs]

What is your opinion of this piece?

 

 

 

 

 

Hayden

[gmarguli]

Nothing jumps out to me as wear, but there are some dead high spots. Looks like a fugly MS60 to me.

[Jazzy]

Au slider maybe?

 

I've looked at a lot of these over the past couple of years, and the copper-nickel Indians tend to be weakly struck, expecially around the temple area and at the tips of the feathers, so it could very well be an MS 60.

[rexcat]

I don’t see any wear either but there is no eye appeal to me, this coin is just a dog.

 

Greg, fugly?

[gmarguli]

I don’t see any wear either but there is no eye appeal to me, this coin is just a dog.

 

Greg, fugly?

 

Fugly = contraction of f**king ugly.

[chinook]

I don’t see any wear either but there is no eye appeal to me, this coin is just a dog.

 

Greg, fugly?

 

MS60's by definition are ugly coins.

[HaydenTubbs]

Well,I honestly thought it was a high end piece for the grade at least high end for an MS-60. However the sale price made me wonder if I missing something here?

[CarolinaCollector]

Looks 58+ to me,

 

I detect light rub in the obverse LH field and on the wreath on the reverse. I don't think the ANACS grade is out of line.

[rexcat]

I don’t see any wear either but there is no eye appeal to me, this coin is just a dog.

 

Greg, fugly?

 

Fugly = contraction of f**king ugly.

 

Just checking, and yes most MS60s are most fugly.

[michael]

au58 is the same thing as ms60 61 62

 

the only difference is that ms 60 61 62 are usually rat butt ugly coins

[James_OldeTowne]

MS-60 is supposed to represent the lowest-quality, ugliest UNC coin possible. The coin in question certainly qualifies! My guess is it's been overdipped, but toned back. It would make for an ideal Dansco coin!

 

James

[relicsncoins]

My opinion of 58 is a little different. Typically, the 58's I see are actually very pleasing coins that would probably go 64 if not for the slightest rub.

 

I've seen alot worse strikes on CN cents. I think what holds this coin back is the presence of hairlines and the lack of luster, as well as the rather spotty color.

 

Jason

[Die Varieties]

In answer to your original question -- I agree with ANACS grade.

 

To me -- a 58 is like a 64 but has slight rub on the high points. I would prefer to have a 58 coin as compared to a 60, 61, or 62 grade.

 

In fact -- if you check out page 318 in the CPG Guide I discovered the 1956 nickel FS-035.6 illustrated at the bottom of the page. The photo in the book is of my coin. I sent that coin to ANACS and it came back AU-58. It does have very slight rub on the high points but otherwise was a beautiful coin. For the heck of it -- I cracked the coin out and re-sent it to ANACS. This time it came back an MS-64!!!!!