Think it is safe to say this is a copper dime?

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I was just looking through a big jug of pennies that I have and came across this dime.. Seems to be copper.. What do you think?

 

[Bruceswar]

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[cpm9ball]

It's possible that it was minted with OBV/REV Clad Layers Missing. What is the weight? It should weigh 2.268 gms. with the clad layers.

 

Chris

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Well.. When I put it on my POS postal scale it says 2 grams but thats as accurate as it gets.

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It is the same size as a dime. If it was struck on a cent planchet would it be bigger?

[EricG]

no it wouldn't be bigger... but it would be thinner. Are you able to shoot a picture showing the edge of the coin?

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How is this?

 

[AlixTCat]

no it wouldn't be bigger... but it would be thinner. Are you able to shoot a picture showing the edge of the coin?

 

Why would it be thinner? There's more metal in a cent planchet and a dime is smaller in diameter. It would be thicker as is evidenced by the picture above.

 

Jonathan

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[kryptonitecomics]

I'm not good with errors or fakes........but it looks like it's either missing it's clad layer or was copper washed...............and I would vote for missing the clad layer from what I can see?

[EricG]

Jonathan,

 

My reply was to the post that the coin would be larger if it were minted with the clad layers missing... As for your assumption a dime can't be minted on a cent planchet... or at least if it were there would be a huge uplift at the edge as a cent planchet is larger then the collar on the dime equipment.

 

Now, Mike,

Are you able to focus in on the edge enough so as to make it clear. Something is definately wrong with this coin but the reflection and or focussing make it difficult for me to get a clear view.

 

Eric

[EricG]

Sorry Mike I han't seen the second page of posts... the second set of pictures you posted does look like the clad layer is missing... I would like to suggest that you send it to PCGS or NGC for grading under the mint error setting. As for being washed... or the clad being removed after being minted I don;t think so... Those coins USUALLY have a potmarked appearance at least under magnification (10-15x) and rarely would continue to have that much detail showing.

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Thanks for all the great info guys.. I was also looking more into this and found out that a dime struck on a cent planchet from what I understand doesnt happen.

[errorist]

Looks like it may be copper plated.

[kryptonitecomics]

Looks like it may be copper plated.

 

That was one of the things I mentioned earlier when I said copper washed........but it could be a coin with the clad layer missing so it is certainly worth sending in to let the experts take a look

[EricG]

True or false: When a coin is coated as you suggest the thickness increases ever so slightly... possably too small to be noticed with the naked eye.

 

Notice the coin in the picture above is slightly thinner then the standard dime. Possable for a coin which is coated with copper or gold or platinum to be thinner then the original: No.

[kryptonitecomics]

You would not be able to spot the difference in size if the coin was plated......but no it wouldn't be smaller. In your pictures the coin in question appears to be the same size to my eyes...but again I think you have a shot at it being legit so I would send it in.

[cpm9ball]

Before spending your money submitting it, find someone (local dealer?) with a scale that will measure in tenths of grams. It should weigh considerably less than 2 grams. The clad layers should account for approximately 25% of the intended weight, and without them it should weigh about 1.7 grams. Since your scale only measures in grams, it is understandable that it would round to the nearest whole number.

 

Chris

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So this is how the dime came back... What is improperly annealed?

[ldhair]

It's a process used to soften the metal before it is struck.

Not sure just what that process is on dimes.

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So would that cause the clad layer not to stick? Im still not real sure why the dime is copper in color or how rare this is especially with the PL and FT.

[ldhair]

Just a guess.

The outer layer is copper nickel, mostly copper.

These are annealed with heat. The heat must have made the nickel loose it's color. I'm thinking the PL means planchet and that the coin didn't loose a layer.

No clue to how rare it is but it's way up there on my coolness scale.

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Nice to see you got it holdered and that it was a true error....I also don't know if it's rare but I'll give you a dime for it to replace the one entombed in plastic?

[Beijim]

Man, that thing is pretty much maxed out in the designations department, isn't it? Any additional designations and the coin would come with a guidebook.

 

Beijim

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John

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Nice coin. Quick question: I have seen the term copper-washed in several places, and have seen no description or explanation as to what it is. Could someone please enlighten me?

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