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Whizzed coins making a comeback on eBay!

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I had thought most all whizzed coins had vanished! Well I have found where they went, yep, eBay! I purchased a Buffalo from eBay i.d." 2fishinfreaks " graded MS63! The coin was a nice whizzed up piece of junk, to be nice! He also want give me a refund either! His auction does state in small letters "ungraded coins are not returnable". His auction also says "bid with confidence! You want be sorry." Well I am sorry!

So if you aren't to sure of your grading you might want to avoid good ole 2fishinfreaks!!!

Posted

Too bad as the coin looks nice from the pictures.

 

I'm surprised a whizzed coin got past the slabbing service. wink.gif

 

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At least you did the proper thing by giving him a negative for every potential buyer to see. 893applaud-thumb.gif I wish more people would give negs to bad sellers.

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Too bad as the coin looks nice from the pictures.

 

I'm surprised a whizzed coin got past the slabbing service. wink.gif

 

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At least you did the proper thing by giving him a negative for every potential buyer to see. 893applaud-thumb.gif I wish more people would give negs to bad sellers.

 

Greg,

 

Theoretically, you are correct, but in actual practice it may just backfire in your face! With so many lunatics in the world today, it is not out of the realm of possibility that you may run into more than a few on eBay.

 

I'm still feeling the effects of leaving negative feedback on a seller who made false claims about an item 20 months ago. After posting it, the guy went berserk. I began to receive subscriptions and invoices for more than two dozen magazines and solicitations from companies that I never knew existed. In all, there were more than 500 pieces of mail. I was able to determine that all of this originated from his hometown. In several cases, I was able to procure photocopies of the mail-in requests. All of them were in his handwriting and postmarked from his hometown.

 

I documented everything and sent it to eBay with a formal complaint. Their response? "What do you expect us to do?" I even filed a complaint with the U.S. Attorney because this clearly was a case of using the U.S. Postal Service to commit a fraud. What was their response? "It wouldn't be worth our time investigating and prosecuting it."

 

Just this year, alone, I have had more than 300 eBay transactions. I can't say that I have been completely satisfied with all of them. Do I really want to post negative feedback in a public forum for all to see? Hardly! I have had better success dealing with the problem cases, privately, as one responsible adult to another. We should all realize that you can attract more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

 

On the other hand, there are some sellers who could care less about the negative feedback. I know of one who has more than 10,000 feedbacks and he could care less about the dozen or so negs he receives each year. Do you really think that eBay will do anything about him, considering his numbers?

 

Personally, I don't even like to mention a seller's name, here, because it may leave you open to a lawsuit for libel. To a wacko, it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong! To paraphrase the lyrics from an Elton John song....... You may be right!.......But he may be crazy!.......He may be just the lunatic you're looking for!

 

Chris

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That was actually Billy Joel and not Elton John... sorry.gif

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That was actually Billy Joel and not Elton John... sorry.gif

 

See, I told everybody that I'm getting too old to remember anything! Um, um, er, uh.........thanks, uh, Pat!

 

Chris

Posted

It is amazing that anyone would think that they could sell whizzed coin still today and get away with it. Ebay still won't usually exercise control over many of these sellers. Also some sellers that sell very bad merchandise, continue to get good feedback from most of their customers. Go figure!

Posted

Theoretically, you are correct, but in actual practice it may just backfire in your face! With so many lunatics in the world today, it is not out of the realm of possibility that you may run into more than a few on eBay.

 

I fully agree. However, I don't think you can live your life worrying that you're going to run into crazy people. I've run into the crazy, fraudulent, and whacko people on eBay also, but not anywhere near to the extreme situation you did. However, I still leave negative feedback if it is deserved. I left a negative last week to a deadbeat. I think there is a responsibility to other eBay users to warn them abot problem people. Ifmore people did this, eBay would be a much better place.

 

 

 

I'm still feeling the effects of leaving negative feedback on a seller who made false claims about an item 20 months ago. After posting it, the guy went berserk. I began to receive subscriptions and invoices for more than two dozen magazines and solicitations from companies that I never knew existed. In all, there were more than 500 pieces of mail. I was able to determine that all of this originated from his hometown. In several cases, I was able to procure photocopies of the mail-in requests. All of them were in his handwriting and postmarked from his hometown.

 

Call his local police department. Explain that you don't want a big investigation into it, but you'd like an officer to go over to his home and explain that what he is doing is against the law. That'd likely scare him enough that he'd stop right away.

 

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Call your local or his local Postal Inspector. Explain the exact same thing to them. Once an officer knocks on his door, he'll probably never do it again.

 

 

I documented everything and sent it to eBay with a formal complaint. Their response? "What do you expect us to do?"

 

Did you tell them what you expect? "I expect you to terminate the sellers account immediately." If that doesn't work, take it further. Have a lawyer send eBay a letter asking for the termination of the sellers account and making it known that should this seller have a pattern of doing this, eBay will be named in any lawsuit.

 

eBay cares about one thing only, their money. If a seller is going to cost them money, they'll remove the seller.

 

 

 

 

Just this year, alone, I have had more than 300 eBay transactions. I can't say that I have been completely satisfied with all of them. Do I really want to post negative feedback in a public forum for all to see? Hardly! I have had better success dealing with the problem cases, privately, as one responsible adult to another. We should all realize that you can attract more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

 

Again, I agree. However, there are cases where a negative is warranted. I purchased several items from a seller and when the box arrived it was missing many of them. No response to multiple emails. I called and he wouldn't get on the line. The company he worked for was a member of the BBB. I contacted them and they never responded to the BBB inquiry.

 

I paid with a credit card and had my company reverse the charges. Should I have been worried about this guy being a crazy? I negged him for every one of the auctions I won from him.

 

I then went a step further. I contacted eBay about the seller and got the same basic canned response. After some pressing I got his account terminated. Then I went back to eBay and proved that he had several other accounts and had them all terminated.

 

I also neg EVERY deadbeat bidder. If every seller did that, eBay would be a lot nicer of a place. I can't tell you how many times I file a NPB and before I go to leave neg feedback, the account is terminated since it is their 3rd NPB. HOWEVER, the account has no negs attached to it. 893censored-thumb.gif Why didn't the other 2 people leave negs? I know if I saw 2 recent negs for non-payment, I'd have cancelled the bid and blocked the bidder. The failure of the other sellers to leave a neg caused other users problems.

 

 

On the other hand, there are some sellers who could care less about the negative feedback. I know of one who has more than 10,000 feedbacks and he could care less about the dozen or so negs he receives each year. Do you really think that eBay will do anything about him, considering his numbers?

 

No, I don't. However, I'd still neg him if he did something wrong. I actually look at feedback before bidding and a seller with too many negs does not get my bid. Whether they think so or not, it does cost them money.

Posted
Theoretically, you are correct, but in actual practice it may just backfire in your face! With so many lunatics in the world today, it is not out of the realm of possibility that you may run into more than a few on eBay.

 

I fully agree. However, I don't think you can live your life worrying that you're going to run into crazy people. I've run into the crazy, fraudulent, and whacko people on eBay also, but not anywhere near to the extreme situation you did. However, I still leave negative feedback if it is deserved. I left a negative last week to a deadbeat. I think there is a responsibility to other eBay users to warn them abot problem people. Ifmore people did this, eBay would be a much better place.

 

 

 

I'm still feeling the effects of leaving negative feedback on a seller who made false claims about an item 20 months ago. After posting it, the guy went berserk. I began to receive subscriptions and invoices for more than two dozen magazines and solicitations from companies that I never knew existed. In all, there were more than 500 pieces of mail. I was able to determine that all of this originated from his hometown. In several cases, I was able to procure photocopies of the mail-in requests. All of them were in his handwriting and postmarked from his hometown.

 

Call his local police department. Explain that you don't want a big investigation into it, but you'd like an officer to go over to his home and explain that what he is doing is against the law. That'd likely scare him enough that he'd stop right away.

 

or

 

Call your local or his local Postal Inspector. Explain the exact same thing to them. Once an officer knocks on his door, he'll probably never do it again.

 

 

I documented everything and sent it to eBay with a formal complaint. Their response? "What do you expect us to do?"

 

Did you tell them what you expect? "I expect you to terminate the sellers account immediately." If that doesn't work, take it further. Have a lawyer send eBay a letter asking for the termination of the sellers account and making it known that should this seller have a pattern of doing this, eBay will be named in any lawsuit.

 

eBay cares about one thing only, their money. If a seller is going to cost them money, they'll remove the seller.

 

 

 

 

Just this year, alone, I have had more than 300 eBay transactions. I can't say that I have been completely satisfied with all of them. Do I really want to post negative feedback in a public forum for all to see? Hardly! I have had better success dealing with the problem cases, privately, as one responsible adult to another. We should all realize that you can attract more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

 

Again, I agree. However, there are cases where a negative is warranted. I purchased several items from a seller and when the box arrived it was missing many of them. No response to multiple emails. I called and he wouldn't get on the line. The company he worked for was a member of the BBB. I contacted them and they never responded to the BBB inquiry.

 

I paid with a credit card and had my company reverse the charges. Should I have been worried about this guy being a crazy? I negged him for every one of the auctions I won from him.

 

I then went a step further. I contacted eBay about the seller and got the same basic canned response. After some pressing I got his account terminated. Then I went back to eBay and proved that he had several other accounts and had them all terminated.

 

I also neg EVERY deadbeat bidder. If every seller did that, eBay would be a lot nicer of a place. I can't tell you how many times I file a NPB and before I go to leave neg feedback, the account is terminated since it is their 3rd NPB. HOWEVER, the account has no negs attached to it. 893censored-thumb.gif Why didn't the other 2 people leave negs? I know if I saw 2 recent negs for non-payment, I'd have cancelled the bid and blocked the bidder. The failure of the other sellers to leave a neg caused other users problems.

 

 

On the other hand, there are some sellers who could care less about the negative feedback. I know of one who has more than 10,000 feedbacks and he could care less about the dozen or so negs he receives each year. Do you really think that eBay will do anything about him, considering his numbers?

 

No, I don't. However, I'd still neg him if he did something wrong. I actually look at feedback before bidding and a seller with too many negs does not get my bid. Whether they think so or not, it does cost them money.

 

Thanks for the advice, Greg. Although I think it has been too long since the "lunatic episode" to do anything about it, I will certainly keep your suggestions in mind. I hope I will never need to go that far.

 

Chris

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I like to think that I am the crazy one! I can usually even get my postage refunded! The last two coins I purchased that were junk I pitched such a fit that both sellers refunded the postage as well! This seller was one that didn't want to make things right. Oh well! I will prob eat a neg from him but I don't think it will hurt me! By the way this whizzed up coin wont be resold by me. I might drop it in my wifes purse and let her jingle the whizzing off of it! I do run the chance of her spending it but that wouldn't be much of a loss! grin.gif

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I like to think that I am the crazy one! I can usually even get my postage refunded! The last two coins I purchased that were junk I pitched such a fit that both sellers refunded the postage as well! This seller was one that didn't want to make things right. Oh well! I will prob eat a neg from him but I don't think it will hurt me! By the way this whizzed up coin wont be resold by me. I might drop it in my wifes purse and let her jingle the whizzing off of it! I do run the chance of her spending it but that wouldn't be much of a loss! grin.gif

 

I've got a few whizzed Buffs, too! Why drop it in your wife's purse when you can come to the FUN Show in January and we can spend them at a bar. I'm sure we'll get very good service.

 

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I would love to go to the FUN show!!!

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greg you are a really smart man and fair and thank god we got people like yourself to take a stand and be fair minded with integrity

 

i am glad you got one bad sleezebayer taken off

 

now my position if i was in charge i would eliminate sleezebay alltogether it is a terrible cancer with absolutely no redeeming value

Posted

There is something fundamentally wrong with the logic that I received a negative feedback because I negatively fedback on a deadbeat that did not respond to emails or ship a coin for many weeks after I paid him via PayPal. I was very, very ill at the time and the only way I had to get a response was to overtly threaten him (not that I could have carried it out). Ebay's logic on giving the wronged party (me) a negative in my feedback record in response to my giving him a negative is flat wrong.

 

I have received one negative feedback in 6 years and it is from a deadbeat, thieving, scab, crook. I normally pay all auctions within 2-3 hours of closing. Why do I deserve this????

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Why do I deserve this????

 

 

Exactly,you don't...at least you didn't get banned! mad.gif