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Coin I Plan To Take To The FUN Show for Analysis

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Die Varieties

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The below coin has been examined by a few specialist with widely varied opinions. Some say it's genuine -- some say it's not genuine. At this stage of the game -- I don't have anything to lose, so I figured the best thing to do is take it with me to the upcoming FUN Show and let all the major error dealers and TPGS examine it.

 

I thought I would let you take a look. The coins weight is 3.11 grams and is non-magnetic.

 

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AlixTCat

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Billy,

 

I always look forward to your posts as there is always something to learn.

 

While this "looks" to me to be a "2" over "3", if I understand how things happen, this i impossible, correct? You could have a "3" over a "2", but not the other way around since 1942 preceeds 1943. There would not be any 1943's left in the hoppers to be over struck with a "2", am I right?

 

So, how do you explain it? What do you think happened here? I'd be interested in hearing what you think is the case here.

 

Jonathan

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Pretty interesting coin. I suppose that someone at the Mint may have picked up a #3 number punch, tested the die, then said "woops!" then punched the die with a #2. But it seems unusual, to say the least. Keep us informed!

 

Hoot

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Wow, Billy, you get all the cool coins! I sure would like to know why some of the experts with whom you consulted think that the coin is not genuine. The picture is so good I can see that the underdate does not interrupt the flow lines. This coin is just one more reason to head to Florida in January!

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HaydenTubbs

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Wow Billy,that is quite a piece! Will it be available for board members to examine at the FUN show? I certainly would like to view this one! Do you suppose you could post a picture of this coin,like you've done with other varities, with the other date,1943, imposed over this coin and matched up with the so-called 2 over 3?

 

Hayden

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I find it hard to believe a "3" was first stamped and then the "2" over it.

 

Perhaps the die was gouged or chipped out?

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Pretty interesting coin. I suppose that someone at the Mint may have picked up a #3 number punch, tested the die, then said "woops!" then punched the die with a #2. But it seems unusual, to say the least. Keep us informed!

 

Hoot

 

Looks like someone had gotten the punches mixed up. Also the 3 looks to be of a larger size which was used on some other denomination at that mint. But what denomination?

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The below coin has been examined by a few specialist with widely varied opinions. Some say it's genuine -- some say it's not genuine. At this stage of the game -- I don't have anything to lose, so I figured the best thing to do is take it with me to the upcoming FUN Show and let all the major error dealers and TPGS examine it.

 

I thought I would let you take a look. The coins weight is 3.11 grams and is non-magnetic.

 

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Very interesting. It appears to be a late die state as well since die fatique is evidenced. Yet, the under-three appears to be sharp. Very odd but there doesn't appear to be any tool marks or pushed metal based upon the die flow lines. I'd say it is most probably genuine. Very interesting, discovery coin. Keep us informed.

 

p.s.

 

Don't let Tubby Hubby put his Dunkin' Donuts glazed-fingers on it! 893naughty-thumb.gif

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It is quite possible to have 1942/3, as dies for both dates were being hubbed simultaneously during the final quarter of 1942. The mints need to have numerous die pairs ready in advance for the new year. I can easily imagine where a die was impressed with a 1943 hub, sent back to the oven for annealing (softening), and then impressed a second time with a 1942 hub by mistake. This is the method by which the 1942/1 dimes and 1943/2 nickels occurred, except that the order of hubbing is reversed in this instance.

 

I'll be at the NGC table during the FUN show, and I hope you'll bring this coin by for me to examine. Before then, I'll be at Long Beach, Las Vegas, Santa Clara and Baltimore, should you be able to attend any of those shows.

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Certainly make alot of sense that dies were being hubbed simultaneously as David mentioned. Good luck while you get it authenticated at the FUN show.

 

Nice find you got there !!!!!!!!!!

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Mr. Lange: I will most certainly have the coin available for you to examine at the FUN Show.

 

The coin was encapsulated genuine and graded as MS-63/RB by a TPGS of whom I will not name. I will say this; it was not NGC, PCGS or ANACS. However, it was annotated as a "die break" on the holder insert. I cracked the coin out of the slab since that was not correctly attributed and I have mixed feelings about this particular TPGS reputation.

 

Besides -- if the coin is ever to be authenticated genuine and correctly attributed -- then it would need to be raw for complete and proper examination.

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The below coin has been examined by a few specialist with widely varied opinions. Some say it's genuine -- some say it's not genuine. At this stage of the game -- I don't have anything to lose, so I figured the best thing to do is take it with me to the upcoming FUN Show and let all the major error dealers and TPGS examine it.

 

I thought I would let you take a look. The coins weight is 3.11 grams and is non-magnetic.

 

42d.jpg

 

 

 

Very interesting. It appears to be a late die state as well since die fatique is evidenced. Yet, the under-three appears to be sharp. Very odd but there doesn't appear to be any tool marks or pushed metal based upon the die flow lines. I'd say it is most probably genuine. Very interesting, discovery coin. Keep us informed.

 

p.s.

 

Don't let Tubby Hubby put his Dunkin' Donuts glazed-fingers on it! 893naughty-thumb.gif

Hey now I haven't had donut for months! sign-rantpost.gif

 

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