Marty1102 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Was the rear of this coin struck through something or is this some kind of damage? Also would there be doubling on the front or is that just a reflection? Thank you guys for any answers you can give me and other places where I can research this stuff other than YouTube videos since most of them are BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 The reverse of this 1967 cent was very likely planed off. The only other possibility is that there was a severe planchet defect that caused the coin to break in two, but this is extremely unlikely. The reverse roughness indicates that it isn't a uniface strike, which would be a virtual impossibility anyway. I see no "doubling" on this coin, even of the "worthless" kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I'll address the reverse of this coin first. I noticed what seems to be to my eyes a "cross-hatch" pattern to the surface. I also note that the surface is at uneven depths scattered about it. Even in the case of a uniface as noted by Sandon which would be more smooth, or in the different case of a capped die in which the surface in some cases may be slightly "wavy" depending on how long the cap was on the die, the surface on your coin I think was abraded in two different directions almost 90 degrees to each other. I think a file was part of what was used to remove material but there could also have been a metal rasp involved too which one would have a little less control on removal of the metal making those random deep spots. Or it could have been a fine file and a coarse file, but either way something used didn't allow the user to have good control on the depth of material removal. The obverse is slightly worn and it may just be the lighting but I see what might be some strike doubling in the motto and WE TRUST in particular, but I don't see any doubling in LIBERTY or in the date numerals. I would also say this coin was put back into circulation after the abrasion event which probably dulled down some of the peaks made by the removal tools and allowed the surface to "smooth out" a little bit as well as tone. Marty1102 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty1102 Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 Thanks Powermad for your explanation! I appreciate it, thought for once I found something cool. powermad5000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 On 9/18/2024 at 12:09 AM, Marty1102 said: Thanks Powermad for your explanation! I appreciate it, thought for once I found something cool. No problem!!! Eventually I have a feeling you will find something cool. One thing I have noticed about collecting, at least for me, is that I didn't find the coins I have, they found me. Marty1102 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty1102 Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 I still have half a 5 gallon glass jug of coins from my grandfathers basement to go through. He told me he has been putting his change in it since the 60’s and put it in the basement in the late 80’s so fingers crossed 🤞🏼 powermad5000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Does the coin look thinner than normal. I was wondering if you have put this coin on a scale to see what the weight is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty1102 Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 It does look a little thinner. I have not weighed it.. I will when I get home today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty1102 Posted Wednesday at 01:38 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:38 AM It weighs 3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted Wednesday at 04:15 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:15 AM The ideal weight for one of these is 3.11g +/- 0.12g of mint tolerance. Does your scale weigh to the hundredth of a decimal point or 0.01g? If not, the scale is rounding up to the nearest tenth of a gram and scales reading only to the tenth of a decimal point (0.1g) are not accurate enough when it comes to weighing coins. If this coin does weigh 3.10g I would be surprised because of the amount of metal removed from the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted Wednesday at 11:06 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:06 AM There are lots of cents with a full strike that weight 3.01. this could be a reversed caped die strike coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty1102 Posted Wednesday at 02:07 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 02:07 PM I am picking up a better scale. I was just using the one at my house. I have a better one. I will give you exact weight today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...