Manchu11B Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Posted these before. Have better pictures now that I have a scope. Comparing two 2015 P dimes. One is very different and appears to have a DDO… or something else. Found the same issue with a 2016 P. Pictures below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Coinbuf Posted August 2 Popular Post Share Posted August 2 (edited) Your big mistake was buying that scope, it will only cause you to chase shadows. What your photos show is common worthless strike/machine doubling and die erosion on the coins that have a ghosted secondary image, also common and worthless. None of these are errors, none are the product of true hub doubling, just simple poor quality control and what happens when coin dies are used past their intended useful life. Edited August 2 by Coinbuf rrantique, The Neophyte Numismatist and Sandon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Just Bob Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Severe die erosion in both cases. Looks interesting, but does not add any value to the coins. The Neophyte Numismatist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 On 8/2/2024 at 1:02 AM, Coinbuf said: Your big mistake was buying that scope, it will only cause you to chase shadows. .... 🐓 So this is what has happened to the "Hobby of Kings!" There is nothing wrong in and of itself of buying a scope, the problem as I see it, is being able to identify and interpret what you see. As you consult with the serious collectors on this Forum you will learn things you never knew. Much of what you need to know is covered in the first two Topics posted on the first page of this Forum. if it's any consolation, there isn't a member who hasn't experienced what promised to be the "thrill of victory," turn quickly into "the agony of defeat." Learning is a life-long process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchu11B Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 Henri, Thank you for the civil response. Is there a good reference you would suggest (with images) that details the difference between true errors and situations I’ve come across above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) On 8/2/2024 at 10:00 AM, Manchu11B said: Henri, Thank you for the civil response. Is there a good reference you would suggest (with images) that details the difference between true errors and situations I’ve come across above? Check the first two [green pinned] Topics listed in this Forum. Edited August 2 by Henri Charriere Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Coins struck from doubled dies, which are classified as die varieties, not mint errors. are characterized by crisp, clear doubling with a gap or "notch" between the images, not ghostly extra images as on your 2015-P dime, which are characteristic of die deterioration doubling, or shallow, shelf-like extra images as seen on coins exhibiting strike doubling. Please refer the following sources to learn how to tell the difference between a coin struck from a doubled die and coins exhibiting "worthless" doubling such as strike doubling (a.k.a. machine, mechanical, or shelf doubling) and die deterioration doubling: Double Dies vs. Machine Doubling | NGC (ngccoin.com) https://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html and links therein In 1996 the mint instituted a "single squeeze" method for making dies, as a result of which there are very few significant doubled die varieties on coins from 1997 on. Significant doubled die varieties of any date are listed on NGC VarietyPlus, United States Categories | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com), and PCGS Coinfacts. Less significant ones may be found on such sites as doubleddie.com and varietyvista.com. It is generally agreed that if a die variety can't be seen at 5-7x magnification, it isn't of sufficient significance to be of interest to collectors. "With few exceptions, NGC will not attribute die varieties that require greater than 5x magnification to be clearly recognizable." What is a Variety? | NGC (ngccoin.com). Mint errors of any significance usually affect large areas of a coin and should be observable without using any magnification at all. See Variety vs. Mint Error | NGC (ngccoin.com), which explains the difference between die varieties and mint errors as used by most numismatists nowadays. If you are under the impression that it is a common occurrence to find significant mint errors, die varieties, or other rare coins in circulation, please read the following recent article by a well-known coin dealer: Jeff Garrett: Fake News and Misinformation in Numismatics | NGC (ngccoin.com). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
