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1853 Pattern Cent?

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I purchased this coin on ebay Listed as a Hard Times token. Obviously it's not, but it seems rather unique. Its 18.02 MM and weighs 3.9 grams (60.19 grains). A Judd-151 Pattern cent made of German Silver sold in 1973 had a weight of 39.9 grains and a diameter of 18.1 mm. Could this be a pure copper pattern cent? I don't have the expertise or references to determine. Also, if I sent it in to be graded, would they decline to slab because of the blemish on the nose, or would they simply note it since this would be a discovery coin? What might the coin be worth if it is a new find?

 

thanks much,

Doug

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I don't know what it is and have no reference books with me right now, but send it in to be graded. The hit on the nose doesn't look bad enough for a body bag.

 

If you are unsure about that, send it to NCS first for grading and if it would grade at NGC they will send it on. Or try ANACS.

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IMO, It doesn't look like any pattern cent that I have ever seen. It may be a hard times token, as described. NGC also grades HTT also.

Edit! Oops! I didn't notice at first but there is a wide space between "ONE" and "CENT". I just about would bet that , at one time, the word "NOT" was in between the "ONE CENT". Someone long ago scraped off the "NOT" to pass the token as a regular U.S. Cent!

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Even old folks can learn something!

 

Dear God, I hope so. wink.gif

 

Hoot

 

BTW, Here's some more info on 1853 patterns.

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Hoot-----I am truly impressed!!----And Doug----Hoot is a pro and you should listen to him. Get the piece slabbed by NGC. Anyway, Hoot , you forced me to drag out my old 1970 coppy of Judd. #149 is German silver [40% nickel, 40% copper and 20% zinc and is listed as an R-6 #150 is also German silver [30% nickel and 60% copper and 10% zinc] and is listed also as an R-6 #151 is 40% nickel and 60% copper and is listed as an R-7 There is also a Mule of the reverse with the reverse of the cent of 1850 It is #152 and is also German Silver and is listed as an R-7 Now Doug---I have the book but not the knowledge in this area. But, if that coin was mine, I would get it in a slab. I know enough to tell you that, if it is authentic, it is worth some bucks. Great going Hoot!! Bob [supertooth]

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Looking at the price you paid.......several other folks new it wasn't a hard times token either 893whatthe.gif

 

Now with that said...it's still worth every penny...no (pun intended) and I would say you got a steal of a deal 893applaud-thumb.gif

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