roadbike Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Here are some numismatic book covers that I love; Harry Salyards, Eagle poised on a bank of clouds Christopher Faulkner, Imperial designs--Canada's shops, colonies and commerce tokens Peter Jencius, Vatican City coins David Sears, Roman coins. (1988 single volume edition) Francis Paul Prucha, Indian medals in American History Charlton standard catalog, Canadian Colonial tokens, 10th edition Do you have any favorites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 11:01 AM, roadbike said: Do you have any favorites? Yeah, except they're called dust covers and when they're shelved all you see are unremarkable spines. 🤣 GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadbike Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) I like your screen name, Quintus Arrius. If I recall, QA was the mentor and protector of Ben-Hur in the eponymous movie as well as a real-life person. Are there any numismatic books concerning the coins of Quintus Arrius? I'm just learning about Roman coins. Can you recommend any books? (Let's not sweat the covers.) Thanks. Edited March 28, 2023 by roadbike expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 11:01 AM, roadbike said: Do you have any favorites? Roger's Saints book and auction catalogs with an MCMVII Ultra High Relief are my favorite. Love that concave look ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 1:27 PM, roadbike said: I like your screen name, Quintus Arrius. If I recall, QA was the mentor and protector of Ben-Hur in the eponymous movie as well as a real-life person. Are there any numismatic books concerning the coins of Quintus Arrius? I'm just learning about Roman coins. Can you recommend any books? (Let's not sweat the covers.) Thanks. ...or possibly the real Quintus Arrius, who was Praetor in 72 BC. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) On 3/28/2023 at 11:01 AM, roadbike said: Do you have any favorites? I like all of these covers, but am partial to the Heritage Platinum Night FUN 2020 cover (top left) and Roger's book. The Liberty Head book cover is also an attention-grabber, IMO. Notice how the Morse Platinum Night 2005 cover has smaller pictures but is targeted at a different clientele than a book. I have other books including currency and any unique or valuable bill on the cover tends to grab my attention. The Whitman Red Books with the coins featured (i.e., Morgan Silver Dollars by QDB) are also simple but effective. Edited March 29, 2023 by GoldFinger1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWB Posted March 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) All of those are common specialty content covers. They are good at getting attention from someone looking for a book on a specific coin type. The redundant "$20 Double Eagle" is a typical example. Something like this one. below, avoids specific content by substituting a well known design to attract attention from a wider potential audience. The ambiguity is intentional. (I don't like the name block at the bottom, but there were few options. Also, a bleed between image and text would have softened the transition and been better.) This next one was adopted for its complete simplicity and connection between image and subject. (Even the title text is silver-gray color.) Edited March 29, 2023 by RWB GoldFinger1969, rrantique and Rod D. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 11:41 AM, GoldFinger1969 said: I like all of these covers, but am partial to the Heritage Platinum Night FUN 2020 cover (top left) and Roger's book. The Liberty Head book cover is also an attention-grabber, IMO. Notice how the Morse Platinum Night 2005 cover has smaller pictures but is targeted at a different clientele than a book. I have other books including currency and any unique or valuable bill on the cover tends to grab my attention. The Whitman Red Books with the coins featured (i.e., Morgan Silver Dollars by QDB) are also simple but effective. I like Saints, but for covers with coins as the primary focus - I’m a bit biased towards: GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 12:45 PM, RWB said: This next one was adopted for its complete simplicity and connection between image and subject. (Even the title text is silver-gray color.) I think that's a unique picture for the Silver Dollar book. Very inspired choice. Right time period image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 It's also the right person. It is a contemporary portrait of Anna ("Nanny") Williams. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidturner Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) On 3/28/2023 at 6:01 PM, roadbike said: Here are some numismatic book covers that I love; Harry Salyards, Eagle poised on a bank of clouds Christopher Faulkner, Imperial designs--Canada's shops, colonies and commerce tokens Peter Jencius, Vatican City coins David Sears, Roman coins. (1988 single volume edition) Francis Paul Prucha, Indian medals in American History Charlton standard catalog, Canadian Colonial tokens, 10th edition Do you have any favorites?The cover of a book is an indisputable key to its success. After all, the first impression often determines whether a book will be read. The cover is a visual appeal that should grab the reader's attention and keep them interested. It should be attractive, emotionally charged and convey the essence and atmosphere of the work. I recently read to kill a mockingbird, found https://edubirdie.com/examples/to-kill-a-mockingbird/ for this. Here's a really cool cover. A well-designed cover creates curiosity and draws the reader into the story, increasing the chances of success. But do not forget that both the content and the quality of the text are important. I myself often buy books purely for the cover. David Sears, Roman coins. (1988 single volume edition) This cool Edited June 1, 2023 by davidturner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VKurtB Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Illegal Tender: Gold, Greed, and the Mystery of the Lost 1933 Double Eagle by David Tripp Sorry, I just couldn't resist rattling someone's cage. And it's not even vanity house published! https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Illegal-Tender/David-Tripp/9780743274357 Edited May 23, 2023 by VKurtB Henri Charriere, GoldFinger1969, ldhair and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadok Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 2:07 PM, VKurtB said: Illegal Tender: Gold, Greed, and the Mystery of the Lost 1933 Double Eagle by David Tripp Sorry, I just couldn't resist rattling someone's cage. And it's not even vanity house published! https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Illegal-Tender/David-Tripp/9780743274357 ...love it, i mite even buy two.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 10:20 AM, zadok said: ...love it, i mite even buy two.... Yes, better than kindling to start that Winter fire get started in your fireplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadok Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 11:10 AM, GoldFinger1969 said: Yes, better than kindling to start that Winter fire get started in your fireplace. ...no i use those old Barr notes i paid $2 each for years ago.... GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 10:20 AM, zadok said: ...love it, i mite even buy two.... blast from the past... 🐓 : you know what that means! q.a.: yeah, they've upped the ante... now we're going to have to go out and get three signed copies... all first editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 2:07 PM, VKurtB said: Illegal Tender: Gold, Greed, and the Mystery of the Lost 1933 Double Eagle I presume you have read the book (or maybe someone else has)...does this sound familiar regarding the 2nd Mystery 1933 besides the Farouk-Fenton-Weitzman-Elite Coin ? "In 1975, Jeff Browning purchased from three dealers Roy E. Naftzger’s collection of Saint-Gaudens Double Eagles which included a 1933 Double Eagle, priced at a near world-record $250,000. Naftzger had been an important client of Abe Kosoff, who had purchased many coins from Israel Switt, including as many as four 1933 Double Eagles. Years later, Naftzger himself related that he had “personally owned four of them at one time”; one of these was sold to Browning, the other three, Naftzger said were “long gone.” In 1978 Browning died, and representatives of his estate learned the 1933 Double Eagle might present legal issues. Mike Brownlee, one of the dealers who had sold the coin, quietly showed the coin around the trade, where its appearance was greeted with nervous awe. One dealer expressed interest, had photos taken, but ultimately declined on advice from his lawyers. Eventually a buyer was found and the Mystery coin disappeared into the murk which always seemed to envelop 1933 Double Eagles." Henri Charriere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) On 6/1/2023 at 9:27 PM, GoldFinger1969 said: I presume you have read the book (or maybe someone else has)...does this sound familiar regarding the 2nd Mystery 1933 besides the Farouk-Fenton-Weitzman-Elite Coin ? "In 1975, Jeff Browning purchased from three dealers Roy E. Naftzger’s collection of Saint-Gaudens Double Eagles which included a 1933 Double Eagle, priced at a near world-record $250,000. Naftzger had been an important client of Abe Kosoff, who had purchased many coins from Israel Switt, including as many as four 1933 Double Eagles. Years later, Naftzger himself related that he had “personally owned four of them at one time”; one of these was sold to Browning, the other three, Naftzger said were “long gone.” In 1978 Browning died, and representatives of his estate learned the 1933 Double Eagle might present legal issues. Mike Brownlee, one of the dealers who had sold the coin, quietly showed the coin around the trade, where its appearance was greeted with nervous awe. One dealer expressed interest, had photos taken, but ultimately declined on advice from his lawyers. Eventually a buyer was found and the Mystery coin disappeared into the murk which always seemed to envelop 1933 Double Eagles." It is possible, maybe even likely, that this coin is the one voluntarily surrendered by its owner after the Langbord case had gotten its final legal review. That said, the consensus figure for the number of them still out there is 3-4. Edited June 3, 2023 by VKurtB zadok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 How about getting back to book covers.....The poor dead horse has been ground up, blended, and served medium-rare burgers no one really knows what's between the buns. Henri Charriere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 The French Red Book, the color and dimensions of which coincide with the Yeoman editions. Which came first? Ours, debuting in 1947. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 11:49 AM, VKurtB said: It is possible, maybe even likely, that this coin is the one voluntarily surrendered by its owner after the Langbord case had gotten its final legal review. That said, the consensus figure for the number of them still out there is 3-4. Agreed. I'm just surprised nobody took photos for posterity and to make a future ID/tracking easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadok Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 4:31 PM, RWB said: How about getting back to book covers.....The poor dead horse has been ground up, blended, and served medium-rare burgers no one really knows what's between the buns. ...maybe its because book covers have nothing to do with actual coins?...sort of like "wheres the beef?"...but of course its ur thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Having been employed at various times by the Strand, arguably one of the largest used book stores in the nation, and having spent time in their Rare Book Department, I believe it safe to say that save for the embossed leather-bound books with their fancy gilt-edges, the dust jacket, much like the daily newspaper's banner headline -- "Headless Body Found in Topless Bar" remains memorable some 40 years later -- the "dust jacket" may make or break a potential publishing coup. True, numismatics may seem to be a staid field, but the secret to the hobby's success lies with catching and keeping the younger coin collector's attention. One of the first coin books I purchased (yes, when the skies were patrolled with pterodactyls) was simply titled, "Coin Collecting Made Simple." (1964) It's large colorful cover and pages covered with exotic coins in living color was designed to catch and hold a young person's eye. For mature readers, a hook is needed. The book "Ship of Gold in the Deep Blue Sea," preceded by excerpts before its release date is a fine example. A foundering ship and a sea filled with passengers at the height of a hurricane (1857). Reference works speak for themselves, but for the story behind a story, another book is needed and the dust jacket or quality paperback accompanied by drawings and photos as well as a catchy title may very well be a determinant of success. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I recently learned that the coins chosen to be used on a book cover are called "plate coins." While sometimes they are generic commons, other times they are from famous collections. Interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 9:49 PM, zadok said: ...maybe its because book covers have nothing to do with actual coins?...sort of like "wheres the beef?"...but of course its ur thread.... Actually, it's roadbike's thread. zadok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 "Plate coins" are usually those used in the book's text. Hence the term "plated" referring to a coin that was illustrated by photo in a book or auction. ("The Dexter 1904 dollar was plated in the Newman-Bressett book.") I wonder what the photos in a cook book are called? Photos on a book cover are commonly called "cover art" since they are merely part of a signular composition. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 4:22 PM, Henri Charriere said: The French Red Book, the color and dimensions of which coincide with the Yeoman editions. Which came first? Ours, debuting in 1947. Speaking of which, the unreliability of the resumption of VIP tours at the British Royal Mint (maybe, but I can’t count on it), we have substituted Paris, France for Llantrisant, Wales and the Monnaie de Paris for the Royal Mint. Late September. Henri Charriere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebo Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/4/2023 at 2:06 PM, VKurtB said: Speaking of which, the unreliability of the resumption of VIP tours at the British Royal Mint (maybe, but I can’t count on it), we have substituted Paris, France for Llantrisant, Wales and the Monnaie de Paris for the Royal Mint. Late September. Disappointment? Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/4/2023 at 4:03 PM, Zebo said: Disappointment? Shame. Only being able to add the Louvre to the agenda makes the swap really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/4/2023 at 5:30 PM, VKurtB said: Only being able to add the Louvre to the agenda makes the swap really nice. ... not to mention the wholly inadvertent, serendipitous discovery of a source for a 67-certified 1910, 1913 or 1914 you-know what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...