Popular Post tj96 Posted February 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2023 How would NGC attribute and label this coin? Hoghead515, The Neophyte Numismatist and rrantique 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 It appears that you do have a doubled die obverse ("DDO") here, but it is a very minor one. NGC VarietyPlus doesn't list a DDO for the 1972-D Kennedy half dollar. (VarietyPlus is under the "Resources" tab on the NGC home page.) It is my understanding that NGC would likely treat the coin as a normal 1972-D half dollar and not attribute it notwithstanding your payment of the $18 variety attribution fee, which NGC would keep anyway. If this variety is listed in some print or online reference, it is possible that some other service such as ANACS (anacs.com) would attribute it. Have you checked sites such as doubleddie.com and variety vista.com for a match? If there is no match, you might ask ANACS if they would attribute it as a discovery coin. tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 5:02 PM, Sandon said: It appears that you do have a doubled die obverse ("DDO") here, but it is a very minor one. NGC VarietyPlus doesn't list a DDO for the 1972-D Kennedy half dollar. (VarietyPlus is under the "Resources" tab on the NGC home page.) It is my understanding that NGC would likely treat the coin as a normal 1972-D half dollar and not attribute it notwithstanding your payment of the $18 variety attribution fee, which NGC would keep anyway. If this variety is listed in some print or online reference, it is possible that some other service such as ANACS (anacs.com) would attribute it. Have you checked sites such as doubleddie.com and variety vista.com for a match? If there is no match, you might ask ANACS if they would attribute it as a discovery coin. Thanks, that's my understanding as well. I checked PCGS and ANACS pop reports. I don't see one listed or attributed there as well. CPG doesn't list one either. Variety vista does have a 72-D DDO listed but I can't tell if it's an exact match. I haven't check doubleddie.com yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Your coin is a 1972 D Kennedy 50c DDO FS-101 in AU condition. Attributed by CONECA or listed error Variety Plus service NGC. It is just a Denver mark DDO. Your coin shows visible signs of doubling on the motto north. Your coin also shows very subtle north thickening on the date and I see doubling ridges on the 7 & 2. Verification in person only. Go to a coin shop and have it examined properly. It is worth grading and slabbing if my suspicions are verified. Nice find! Edited February 4, 2023 by Mike Meenderink tj96 and Simple Collector 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 It just seems the TPG'ers will not attribute it of it's not listed in the CPG with an FS number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 3:07 PM, tj96 said: It just seems the TPG'ers will not attribute it of it's not listed in the CPG with an FS number. If its a verified listed variety or error with a certified attribution NGC will attribute it with variety plus. It may be a first attribution. You can have it attributed by a professional attribution specialist. If it is a new verified attribution listing it will be worth a boat load of money. Good luck! Keep us posted. PS: A DDO FS-101 can be on any coin and have this type of doubling on date and motto most are called FS-101 with this type of error. Most DDR coins are FS-801. Most... Simple Collector and tj96 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 Thanks guys! 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 6:16 PM, Mike Meenderink said: You can have it attributed by a professional attribution specialist. Exactly who might that be? Someone at a coin shop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 6:39 PM, tj96 said: Exactly who might that be? Someone at a coin shop? I think you can send the coin to Wexler. If its not attributed they will attribute it for you with a new FS number. Then most the time ANACS will slab it as a discovery coin if you send your paper work in with it you get back from having it attributed. Ive read about this on another forum before. I think there is a couple different places you can send it but I think most use Wexler from my understanding. Nice find tj96. tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 4:23 AM, Hoghead515 said: I think you can send the coin to Wexler. If its not attributed they will attribute it for you with a new FS number. Then most the time ANACS will slab it as a discovery coin if you send your paper work in with it you get back from having it attributed. Ive read about this on another forum before. I think there is a couple different places you can send it but I think most use Wexler from my understanding. Nice find tj96. Yes, I did some more research. I believe a James Wiles and a Jason Cuvelier will also look at it and attribute it if it's legit. Thanks! Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 I see where Wexler has attributed them but it's odd ANACS doesn't even have one listed. https://doubleddie.com/2358279.html Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 4:56 PM, Mike Meenderink said: Your coin is a 1972 D Kennedy 50c DDO FS-101 in AU condition. Attributed by CONECA or listed error Variety Plus service NGC. It is just a Denver mark DDO. Your coin shows visible signs of doubling on the motto north. Your coin also shows very subtle north thickening on the date and I see doubling ridges on the 7 & 2. Verification in person only. Go to a coin shop and have it examined properly. It is worth grading and slabbing if my suspicions are verified. Nice find! Please read the section on errors and varieties on this site. I believe NGC only attributes known and published varieties. Regardless, this coin is NOT going to be worth any serious premium. tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 OTOH, this coin looks relatively mark free, so if you’re working on a Kennedy Half Dollar registry set, you could do worse, regardless of a DDO. tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
