Popular Post RWB Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) The following telegram relates to the initial appointment of Henry L. Dodge, former Superintendent of the San Francisco Mint, to the Annual Assay Commission for 1892. Dodge was investigated for various changes during his term, but fully exonerated in 1881. I have not learned the cause of Director Leech’s direct language, but it is very unusual. Newhall served on the Commission in 1892. -- TELEGRAM -- January 27, 1892 Henry L. Dodge 114 Market St., San Francisco, Cal. Have asked the President to substitute the name of William Mayo Newhall for yours on the Assay Commission. You are a fraud and I am mad at you. Your friends could have waited a few days. E. O. Leech, Director of the Mint Edited December 3, 2022 by RWB GoldFinger1969, rrantique, RonnieR131 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 This is as fine an example as any as to why God created e-mail. There are just some deeply personal matters that should not be permitted to come to light years hence. Hoghead515 and RonnieR131 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) Obviousley, they had a back-and-forth on other stuff. Maybe it was personal which is why he called him a "fraud" so quickly in a short telgram. Who knows....maybe the Assay Commission was supposed to meet at a certain time....Dodge wanted to go to a saloon or horse track or something....he tells Leech his mother is sick and he has to be near her bedside and can Leech postpone the meeting a few hours or days....Leech finds out Dodge lied to him and is teed off. Something like that. Sounds personal, if you ask me. Edited December 3, 2022 by GoldFinger1969 RonnieR131 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) I've not located any other correspondence between the two in that volume. Edited December 4, 2022 by RWB GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) I like that type of completely frank communication far better than the pablum we generate today. Calling Dodge a fraud was probably BEING diplomatic. Edited December 3, 2022 by VKurtB GoldFinger1969 and Hoghead515 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I would love to know what Dodge did that was fraudulent. Such a neat snippet of history - I would love to know the backstory, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingAl Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 It almost seems as though he used his position on the Assay Commission to do some personal favors from some friends. Of course, that's all speculation. RonnieR131 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFeld Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Why is it being assumed that Leech was correct? It seems that this sentence contained in the opening post should lend some support to the possibility that his accusation was unfair. “Dodge was investigated for various changes during his term, but fully exonerated in 1881.” GoldFinger1969 and RonnieR131 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 12:30 AM, FlyingAl said: It almost seems as though he used his position on the Assay Commission to do some personal favors from some friends. Of course, that's all speculation. Well, if Leech is calling him a fraud that's different than crook. Sounds like Dodge rubbed Leech the wrong way rather than did something unethical or criminal. Like everyone else here, I'm speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 7:52 AM, MarkFeld said: Why is it being assumed that Leech was correct? It seems that this sentence contained in the opening post should lend some support to the possibility that his accusation was unfair. “Dodge was investigated for various changes during his term, but fully exonerated in 1881.” Henry Dodge was involved in several business deals in and around the city. It is possible there had been a disagreement between the men involving one of these. Also, Edwin Leech had been in the Mint system for several years before replacing James Kimball in 1889. It is possible he knew of internal gossip. It is also possible that Dodge and Kimball, a former mining engineer, cracked skulls over mine or geology and that Kimball relayed his opinions to Leech in conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 I located a few more brief letters/telegrams and all seem entirely cordial and routine. Dodge was usually referred to as "Hon. H. L. Dodge" suggesting he held, or recently held, public office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) On 12/4/2022 at 6:52 AM, MarkFeld said: Why is it being assumed that Leech was correct? It seems that this sentence contained in the opening post should lend some support to the possibility that his accusation was unfair. “Dodge was investigated for various changes during his term, but fully exonerated in 1881.” The fact that he was exonerated does not necessarily mean that he was innocent. It only means that there was no proof of his guilt. However, the fact that Leech blatantly stated that he was mad certainly means his bias could have colored his judgement. Edited December 4, 2022 by Just Bob GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFeld Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 11:02 AM, Just Bob said: The fact that he was exonerated does not necessarily mean that he was innocent. It only means that there was no proof of his guilt. However, the fact that Leech blatantly stated that he was mad certainly means his bias could have colored his judgement. I understand that his exoneration doesn’t necessarily mean he was innocent. At the same time, the accusations don’t necessarily mean he was guilty, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadok Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 12:33 PM, MarkFeld said: I understand that his exoneration doesn’t necessarily mean he was innocent. At the same time, the accusations don’t necessarily mean he was guilty, either. ...similar to the Zerbe story.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) deleted dupe Edited December 4, 2022 by GoldFinger1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Was this HL Dodge a member of the Dodge copper dynasty ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouzillet Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Nope, I don’t think so However he was rich. Born in Vermont Arrived in CA in 49. When he passed away in SF in 1902 his estate was valued at 600,000-700,00 plus GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 Assay Commission members were recommended by Members of Congress and others. The list was expanded or contracted as needed by the mint director, then passed to the Secretary of Treasury or the President's approval and appointment. There was usually an attempt to have a broad range of technical and business people from around the country, although certain NY college professors were appointed multiple times. Most directors liked to spread around the Presidential Appointment honor so repeat membership was not common until the 20th century when some people, Rep William Ashbrook notably, were appointed several years in a row. Appointment for a western resident was like a paid vacation. The Gov't picked up travel, lodging and meals, so a member from California, like Dodge, could get out of "Dodge" for free for the Gov'ts nickel. The only correspondence prior to Leech's negative telegram refers to appointing Dodge 2 years before - and it was entirely cordial. Each appointee received a signed invitation from the President. After the meetings (usually 2 days) they were allowed to pick coins from the remainders as souvenirs and occasionally offered pattern or test pieces as in 1878,1908 and 1922. Later, each member was given a bronze medal as a token of appreciation. Only 1 gold medal was ever made - for President Wilson. This was the idea of commission members as paid for by them. It is in the Wilson Institute in Washington DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...