ldhair Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhair Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 rrantique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physics-fan3.14 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I don't collect these myself, so I'm not as familiar as some others might be. I'd say, from consulting Photograde, that 20 might be a bit low. 30 might be warranted, but that's probably as high as I'd consider. So, a touch conservative but not outlandish. rrantique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Not my area either Larry, but I agree with Jason's assessment. rrantique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Draped Bust quarters can be difficult to grade due to striking weakness. This one appears to have been fairly well struck and correctly graded in the VF range per the current ANA grading guide (7th edition). It could grade a little higher in that range today, though the motto (E PLURIBUS UNUM) is a little weak. PCI, now defunct, was a legitimate though lesser-known grading service in its green (numerical grade) and red (details grade) label days. A dealer told me that he had purchased an 1879-CC Morgan dollar graded MS 61 in a green border PCI holder and had cracked it out and submitted it to PCGS. It came back graded MS 63! The pieces in the gold border holders date from after PCI had been acquired by a dealer who largely and unethically used PCI's name and equipment to (over)grade his own inventory. As I recall, he was ultimately convicted of fraud. zadok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 My personal opinion is that VF20 is fair, the details could support a bit higher grade, but I think the graders took into account some heavy (thou most are old and toned over) marks and gave it a silent net grade. I would not be overly surprised if it graded higher today. zadok and rrantique 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I know nothing about this series but disagree with the grade. Unfortunately, my opinion does not count. If it makes economic sense to have it re-submitted, by all means do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbait Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 My personal opinion is worthless, however, I would grade on the conservative side of that coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 yes @Sandon that is an old PCI holder and back in the days of the green holders they were very conservative. I think now a days she would at least go one grade higher. i love looking for these old Green PCI holders you can get some real gems in them if you look carefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie15 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I don't know if I should say this as the last time I gave my opinion I was informed I was senselessly bashing. I would not pay more than 15 money for it. I think it is too optimistic at 20. JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 7:59 AM, Moxie15 said: I don't know if I should say this as the last time I gave my opinion I was informed I was senselessly bashing.... [And here I was thinking it had something to do with a crack I made a few years back, that "Moxie has moxie." You're a dues-paying member. You have a right to express your opinion! Welcome back, again!] Moxie15 and JT2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutmeg Coin Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Looks good to me; you could cross it to a service that accepts crossovers in the holder submissions. PCGS does that, ICG does, and probably Anacs as well. NGC will only cross PCGS coins if they pass muster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 The last time I submitted encapsulated coins for cross-grading, I printed a short notation in the margin of the submission form stating I was looking for a fair and accurate grade, and whether that entailed a departure in grade, up or down, was of no moment. It just so happened everything crossed successfully despite the fact I purposely left out a few plus ➕️ signs. I believe it would be a good idea to have your coin re-encapsulated if only to get both a second opinion and a higher profile holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
