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[PocketChangePillager]

Not sure what’s on the edge. 

[PocketChangePillager]

Another shot.

[PocketChangePillager]

Almost looks like an 8 on the E. 

[Oldhoopster]

The copper plating was Breached/damaged and the underlying zinc is corroding.

[PocketChangePillager]

I’m talking about what looks like a letters or numbers on the rim or border. 

[VKurtB]

On 5/25/2022 at 4:08 PM, Matthew Matthews said:

I’m talking about what looks like a letters or numbers on the rim or border. 

Physical damage. Hits. Impacts. Nothing more. 

[Hoghead515]

Its pareidolia. Its took several hits making them look like letters and numbers when they are actually just dents and dings. Its like seeing things in rocks and clouds. Very common on coins also. We see post on here all the time like that. Zinc rot can give it those effects also. I think it can anyways. Even though I know its nothing but zinc rot. If you learn the minting process you will learn its impossible. 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Hoghead515

[Alex in PA.]

  They keep coming.

[Mr.Bill347]

If you had two of those, you could put in your two cents worth.

[JT2]

I would say it looks like bird shot.......just enough to dent the metal

[PocketChangePillager]

This is why you get uneducated people not knowing anything. You get comments like “They keep coming”. Other people see that and will never post or ask a question out of fear of being ridiculed. Doesn’t bother me at all. You can’t blame them, they don’t know any better nor taught any better. Must have been nice being born a know it all. Bet you drive a Kia. To those that answered my post with a genuine response, thank you. I can guarantee you that I bet you don’t talk to people like that face to face…… maybe you did once and that’s why you’re a Keyboard Smart Mouth. 

[Mr.Bill347]

Hey don’t take it personally ninja warrior!

[PocketChangePillager]

I definitely don’t. I didn’t make the Penny. 

this is Newbie Coin Collecting Question forum correct?? Well what kind of questions are the Kia’s expecting?? This is why I never post anything. Some times I have to learn a lesson all over again. If you’re not going to help educate and you’re just going to be rude don’t respond or remove the category all together. 

Edited May 25, 2022 by PocketChangePillager
Grammar

[VKurtB]

The current issue of Numismatic News has a story on this phenomenon of phantom errors and varieties and how magazines dealt with queries such as this in the early 1960’s. Suffice it to say that this kind of stuff has been a problem for over 60 years. 

[VKurtB]

On 5/25/2022 at 6:18 PM, SlickCoins said:

They say it's been a problem hmmm what's that mean?

Since the 60's, so all mine are a mirage?

I mean since I've got them 1916,1909,1899,1834,1793

Of course just my opinion

Also not knowing his year cause you all probably chased the guy off.

Lol

Thanks

What it means is that the numismatic hobby has been plagued by folks hawking minor errors and varieties since at least the 1960’s. They are not worth collecting and never have been. Singled out for particular disdain have been die cracks. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by VKurtB

[GoldFinger1969]

On 5/25/2022 at 7:10 PM, PocketChangePillager said:

This is Newbie Coin Collecting Question forum correct?? Well what kind of questions are the Kia’s expecting?? This is why I never post anything. Some times I have to learn a lesson all over again. If you’re not going to help educate and you’re just going to be rude don’t respond or remove the category all together. 

What do you collect ?  How long have you been collecting ?  Interest in other coins (i.e, Saints or Morgans) that maybe you don't yet own ?

[Morpheus1967]

WTF is wrong with driving a Kia?  I love my K5.  

[J P M]

Welcome to the forum . It is all good. Sometimes we get a lot of parking lot and dryer coins looking to be sent off for grading. It can be frustrating trying to explain why a coin is what it is. You will get the truthful answer you are looking for on this forum. All the members here are more than happy to be very honest about a coin that is posted as long as it is the whole coin and both sides. It makes the grading much easier. If you hang around you will see the good the bad and the ugly.

[VKurtB]

On 5/26/2022 at 4:34 AM, Morpheus1967 said:

WTF is wrong with driving a Kia?  I love my K5.  

“Have you driven a Ford lately?” 

[James Zyskowski]

Dear PCP.  Welcome 😉🦫🙀

 

 

[The Neophyte Numismatist]

I agree that this one is damage.  If you are a new collector, starting with error coins can be challenging, as you need deep knowledge in the minting process to better understand how errors happen.  It is all too easy to allow pareidolia to take control of the mind, so the best advice I can give you is to stick to documented examples of double dies and errors until your skill level has you looking for the right attributes of the error.

Obviously, you can (and should) collect whatever you wish.  However, it is easier to start with a particular series (i.e. Lincoln cents, Jefferson nickels, etc.) and learn the series front-to-back.  Know the key dates, know the varieties, and develop your eye to know quality surfaces.

This hobby has two main value levers - rarity and condition.  On most coins, condition drives the bus.  Even the most rare coins are also driven by condition, but they may also hold value in highly circulated grades.

If you are searching for errors on damaged coins (and with limited knowledge), you are in for a long, frustrating, uphill climb. 

Edited May 31, 2022 by The Neophyte Numismatist

[VKurtB]

On 5/31/2022 at 12:28 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

I agree that this one is damage.  If you are a new collector, starting with error coins can be challenging, as you need deep knowledge in the minting process to better understand how errors happen.  It is all too easy to allow pareidolia to take control of the mind, so the best advice I can give you is to stick to documented examples of double dies and errors until your skill level has you looking for the right attributes of the error.

Obviously, you can (and should) collect whatever you wish.  However, it is easier to start with a particular series (i.e. Lincoln cents, Jefferson nickels, etc.) and learn the series front-to-back.  Know the key dates, know the varieties, and develop your eye to know quality surfaces.

This hobby has two main value levers - rarity and condition.  On most coins, condition drives the bus.  Even the most rare coins are also driven by condition, but they may also hold value in highly circulated grades.

If you are searching for errors on damaged coins (and with limited knowledge), you are in for a long, frustrating, uphill climb. 

Not to mention annoying as heck to people who know this field. 

[The Neophyte Numismatist]

On 5/31/2022 at 1:33 PM, VKurtB said:

Not to mention annoying as heck to people who know this field. 

Starting with Wexlers or other known resources should help lower the annoyance level, and also help the OP in finding better coins.  A true win-win!