GeorgeO Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Hello, New here , new to collecting coins, just got this coin out of a roll of old pennies I bought it had 9 or ten Indian heads and the rest wheat pennies and this coin, anyone know anything about this coin ? I am not sure if this is the right place on the forum for this question. Thank you for any response. Edited March 20, 2022 by George F O'Neil Sr Added more information tj96 and GoldFinger1969 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Welcome to the forum. That’s one hell of a find in a roll. GeorgeO and tj96 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Wow!! You're not kidding Lem!! Out of a roll? It does happen. Someone intentionally or accidentally throwing it back into circulation. Great find! 👍🏻 Edit: P.S. Where ever you got that roll, get back there right now and get some more!! Edited March 14, 2022 by tj96 GeorgeO and GoldFinger1969 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie15 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 does it look right to everyone? GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oldhoopster Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2022 It doesn't look right to me. Probably of recent Chinese origin Woods020, GeorgeO and Alex in PA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) What part of the coin doesn't look right to you? I see a slight misalignment. Edited March 14, 2022 by tj96 GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oldhoopster Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 6:18 PM, tj96 said: What part of the coin doesn't look right to you? Breast feather details, flat eagle breast, uneven obverse border, lack of wing details, wreath details and weakness, rev dentical inconsistencies on the top right, for starters. Compare it to certified high grade coins and those things jump right out FlyingAl, Coinbuf, GeorgeO and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) The rev does look more worn then the obv. Flat eagle breast?...okay. Chinese origin?.. Maybe. What would the point of that be?.... A large profit? Edited March 14, 2022 by tj96 GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingAl Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 The coin does appear to be fake. There are many areas of weak details where other areas are very strong, particularly on the reverse lettering. Also not the inconsistent width and thickness of the date numerals. Everything Oldhoopster said I agree with. These become very obvious when compared to a genuine example, just like what Oldhoopster said, GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 3:16 PM, Oldhoopster said: It doesn't look right to me. Probably of recent Chinese origin Nailed it!! GeorgeO and Alex in PA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 Thank you for the comments, how do I tell for sure that this coin is not real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 5:06 PM, George F O'Neil Sr said: Thank you for the comments, how do I tell for sure that this coin is not real? You pretty much just did. Seriously. Alex in PA. and GeorgeO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 7:06 PM, George F O'Neil Sr said: Thank you for the comments, how do I tell for sure that this coin is not real? Can we see a picture of the edge of the coin? GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie15 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 thought so. GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I agree. It doesn’t look right. And sometimes it’s hard to pin point why. But you know it when you see it. GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 7:36 PM, tj96 said: Can we see a picture of the edge of the coin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Hmmm. Okay George, thanks very much for that. 👍🏻 GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) On 3/14/2022 at 5:54 PM, Woods020 said: I agree. It doesn’t look right. And sometimes it’s hard to pin point why. But you know it when you see it. Ah, Potter Stewart LIVES! Does the edge look sketchy to anyone else? Edited March 15, 2022 by VKurtB Hoghead515 and GeorgeO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tj96 Posted March 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) You know, I'm a pretty nice guy. I'm sitting here "average Joe American" just minding my own business. This whole Chinese Communist Party (CCP) thing, from the Red Death China virus (how many Americans did they kill? No Murder!!) to counterfeit coins and EVERYTHING in between, is starting to P_SS me off!! Semper Fi Edited March 15, 2022 by tj96 GeorgeO, RonnieR131, Hoghead515 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 8:21 PM, VKurtB said: Ah, Potter Stewart LIVES! Does the edge look sketchy to anyone else? It was true then, and it’s true now. Especially with coins. It’s funny how sometimes all you need is a fleeting glance to know it’s not legit. GeorgeO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWB Posted March 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2022 Wrong details, wrong thickness, etc. -- at least the eagle is flying in the correct direction. RonnieR131, Hoghead515, GeorgeO and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 4:56 PM, George F O'Neil Sr said: Hello, New here , new to collecting coins, just got this coin out of a roll of old pennies I bought it had 9 or ten Indian heads and the rest wheat pennies and this coin, anyone know anything about this coin ? I am not sure if this is the right place on the forum for this question. Thank you for any response. Thank you everybody on letting me know this is not real, I weighed it and it was 4.67 grams, I would not have known that this is not real if I had not posted it here, I am new to collecting coins as a hobby, Thanx again everybody. Woods020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 9:33 AM, RWB said: Wrong details, wrong thickness, etc. -- at least the eagle is flying in the correct direction. Whatever it is, and from wherever, it appears to have been oiled as part of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 10:36 PM, tj96 said: You know, I'm a pretty nice guy. I'm sitting here "average Joe American" just minding my own business. This whole Chinese Communist Party (CCP) thing, from the Red Death China virus (how many Americans did they kill? No Murder!!) to counterfeit coins and EVERYTHING in between, is starting to P_SS me off!! Semper Fi Anyone who continues to numismatically tolerate China is an appeaser. tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 2:59 PM, VKurtB said: Anyone who continues to numismatically tolerate China is an appeaser. I wouldn’t touch a Chinese panda coin with a 15 foot Bulgarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeav Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 That's the ugliest flyer that I've ever seen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 What is interesting is it definitely isn't real, but the diameter seems right and the thickness to small, yet the weight is right. A little lead in the alloy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Could be partially oxidized nickel...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Nickel and copper are basically the same density so without it being thicker the weight for a coin made of nickel would be the same weight as a copper one. It doesn't appear to be thick like a FE cent, so I can't explain the weight unless there is a higher density material in the alloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) [It's me, the retread guy giving your thread the once-over. Firstly, regardless what you have, or think you may have, hold the coin properly. Forefinger on top, thumb on bottom--no contact with either surface (or minimally at best.) If this had been an 1856, half the Forum would cringe. For the sake of reference, I will refer to this coin as the Monkeypox example (for reasons which will become clearer after you've had sufficient exposure to Flying Eagle Cents.) The things that struck me most noticeably were the strong and weak parts: denticles that recede into the mist. An E and N in CENT that are missing arms and legs as though an effort were made to erase them from existence. And, of course, the Monkeypox which in all fairness to you was not yet diagnosed when you posted your thread. Of even greater concern to me is something no one else even mentioned: the Indian Head Cents and Wheaties! How do they stack up, in your estimation? Any stand-outs? You've only scratched the surface of what may yet turn out to be a phenomenal collection of an artist's attempt to create his interpretation of classic coins. All the best!] 🐓 Edited July 17, 2022 by Quintus Arrius Addition of closing bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
