1963 Jefferson Nickel w/ weird swirl in center of coin Obverse and Reverse 0

[Frantik]

Can anyone provide any insight as to what this could be? Possibly cleaning damage, maybe from a dremel or something...

Appears the swirl is on the Obverse and Reverse side! 

Thanks so much to everyone who replies. 

Justin

[Frantik]

bottom photo is Obverse, photo above bottom is Reverse

[DWLange]

That's damage from a coin counting and/or wrapping machine.

[Frantik]

On 2/24/2022 at 2:19 PM, DWLange said:

That's damage from a coin counting and/or wrapping machine.

Thank you, I have never seen this before, do those machines really do that much damage? 

[RWB]

If you turn down the volume on the rap "music" those marks won't happen!  Especially with "machine rap!"

[Frantik]

On 2/24/2022 at 2:49 PM, RWB said:

If you turn down the volume on the rap "music" those marks won't happen!  Especially with "machine rap!"

[RWB]

On 2/24/2022 at 4:23 PM, Frantik said:

Thank you, I have never seen this before, do those machines really do that much damage? 

Yes. Common coin counters can be almost as bad. I recall seeing nearly flawless halves come from a bag, through a hand cranked counter, and come out looking like they were run over by a heard of steel-suckered octopuses.

Edited February 24, 2022 by RWB

[Frantik]

On 2/24/2022 at 3:06 PM, RWB said:

Yes. Common coin counters can be almost as bad. I recall seeing nearly flawless halves come from a bag, through a hand cranked counter, and come out looking like they were run over by a heard of steel-suckered octopuses.

Didn't think they would do that kind of damage but guess I'll start seeing a lot more now with microscope. 

[Oldhoopster]

One of the tricks is to learn as much as you can about the minting and die making processes.  With some experience, it's pretty easy to know that this couldn't occur at the mint.  And if it didn't occur at the mint, it's damage, regardless of the cause 

 If your interested and looking for info, here are some links for starters

https://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06/how-the-denver-mint-makes-dies-to-produce-coins/

 

 

[RWB]

Those octopuses can be nasty critters when cornered -- 'specially the blue ring types.

[Frantik]

On 2/24/2022 at 3:48 PM, Oldhoopster said:

One of the tricks is to learn as much as you can about the minting and die making processes.  With some experience, it's pretty easy to know that this couldn't occur at the mint.  And if it didn't occur at the mint, it's damage, regardless of the cause 

 If your interested and looking for info, here are some links for starters

https://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06/how-the-denver-mint-makes-dies-to-produce-coins/

 

 

 

Thank you, appreciate your feedback.

[Frantik]

On 2/24/2022 at 3:49 PM, RWB said:

Those octopuses can be nasty critters when cornered -- 'specially the blue ring types.

The deadliest type...