Tgcisland Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 It’s a pretty coin and appears to have the line in the 6 VAR but I think it must have been altered. Any thoughts on this or grade? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) It is a very lovely looking coin but it looks to perfect to me. The toning is the same on both sides. I have seen that before but it always makes me curious? Is it natural or not Edited February 18, 2022 by J P Mashoke JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tgcisland Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Yeah JP that is throwing me. I don’t see any sharp lines in the tone or a spot on the collar where it may have been held. A soaking should not cause this design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I wish I was better at this, but it does show signs of natural toning. I see the pull away effect around the outer devices. It also has a color progression from rim to center. I would say get more opinions before dismissing. I also won’t say it isn’t AT. This is one of the things that I very often get wrong. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member: Seasoned Veteran DWLange Posted February 18, 2022 Member: Seasoned Veteran Share Posted February 18, 2022 The light coming off of Liberty's cheek suggests a surface that's unnaturally smooth. I say cleaned and retoned, but it could just be the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I suspect both the coin and photo have been cleaned and retoned - using an EZ Bake play oven with 100 watt incandescent light bulb. (Did you ever see what happens if you replace the standard 100 watt bulb with an LED equivalent in your kid's EZ Bake?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tgcisland Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 So you think Betty Crocker may have borrowed the coin? It’s so difficult for me to tell. I look online and can see tons of coins that look AT but are naturally toned. These coin Dr’s are good. Would it be worth sending in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 10:33 AM, Tgcisland said: So you think Betty Crocker may have borrowed the coin? It’s so difficult for me to tell. I look online and can see tons of coins that look AT but are naturally toned. These coin Dr’s are good. Would it be worth sending in? Well it depends on your investment into this coin so far. I don't think it would grade much more than a 64 from the pictures. Just my opinion ? but it is not in my hand to look at. If it is graded as being cleaned well then it is worth whatever you can get above melt or it's sentimental value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 10:33 AM, Tgcisland said: I look online and can see tons of coins that look AT but are naturally toned. Looking on line will not help you.. there are so many ways to change the appearance of a coin with photo editor that it will make your head spin.. the only way to rally look at a coin is to have it in your hand.. and from what i see on this one it looks way too clean and unnaturally toned from the pic. You normally will not see the exact toning on both sides. just my opinion because i am not an expert just a collector.. you have some of the best expercts in this field on this site so you in good hands. GBrad and Woods020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tgcisland Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Thanks. I will try to take some better pics later today and post. It was my fathers coin and has been in a box for at least 10 years untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 The photos are not helping the cause, the white balance looks off and a single harsh light source is not giving us a very good look at the color or surfaces. Having said that this looks like a cleaned and retoned AU slider, if I only had these photos to make a decision from I would turn and run away. @Woods020 mentioned that pullaway effect that you see around the stars and lettering of the obverse, that indeed is a common sign that the toning might be natural. However, on the reverse you see none of that, the colors run right up and over the design and lettering elements. As to sending in you already have an opinion from an NGC expert, Mr. Lange, so spending the money to get this back as AU details cleaned or questionable color would not be advisable. Woods020, Alex in PA. and RonnieR131 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 12:36 PM, Tgcisland said: Thanks. I will try to take some better pics later today and post. It was my fathers coin and has been in a box for at least 10 years untouched. If you could not use a wood tone background maybe white, it may help with showing the true color of the coin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tgcisland Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Will do. Thank you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 12:36 PM, Tgcisland said: Thanks. I will try to take some better pics later today and post. It was my fathers coin and has been in a box for at least 10 years untouched. That's what I was waiting to hear, the coins history... Is it yours? Do you have the coin in hand? Where did you get it? Where has it been? You say you think it was altered but you say your father had it in a box for 10 years. Did your father alter it? Where was that box stored? GBrad and RonnieR131 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
