Ottobahn Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Sent a 1878 S Morgan dollar under mint error category. Got graded as 63* on the slab. Can identify from picture that S mint mark is clearly not vertically symmetrical ( Upper half of S is broken or tilted clockwise downward). It was not captured on the slab because I categorised wrongly or the non symmetrical mint mark is considered normal? Appreciate very much on inputs on this matter. Thank you. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ottobahn said: Sent a 1878 S Morgan dollar under mint error category. Got graded as 63* on the slab. Can identify from picture that S mint mark is clearly not vertically symmetrical ( Upper half of S is broken or tilted clockwise downward). It was not captured on the slab because I categorised wrongly or the non symmetrical mint mark is considered normal? Appreciate very much on inputs on this matter. Thank you. Reveal hidden contents I do not believe there is any such error recognized. You cannot merely “make up an error” on the fly. “That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.” Edited March 17, 2021 by VKurtB Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus1967 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Plus it looks to be post mint damage. You can see the chatter marks or whatever damaged the coin. It looks like whatever did that hit the bottom of the S and pushed it upwards. Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 You can check Morgan dollar varieties on VAMworld.com. A variety that clear will be listed and illustrated - unless it's damage. Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) I think Morpheus is right. It looks like what ever made the line of marks below the wreath also hit the tops of the "D" and "O," and possibly the "E," and also took out the bottom of the mint mark. I don't think this one is a mint error. Nice job on the photo, by the way. Edited March 17, 2021 by Just Bob Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member: Seasoned Veteran DWLange Posted March 17, 2021 Member: Seasoned Veteran Share Posted March 17, 2021 I concur; the mintmark took a hit and was pushed out of shape. That's the normal S for 1878-S and 1879-S Reverse of 78 dollars. Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The object lesson here, as it has been forever, that it is simply not good enough for a coin to be "different" from others. That does not necessarily make it collectible or valuable. Many many new collectors get tripped up by this basic principle. Errors and varieties are due to VERY SPECIFIC CAUSES, and unless you have those causes, it's really a big nothingburger. I continue to be astounded how many people miss this very simple fact. Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottobahn Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Thanks to all the enlightenment! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Next time you need to post the whole coin so we can look at it. For pure enjoyment only! Lol Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ottobahn Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Please pardon my weird way of capturing the coin with the light source from my room. Just for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bsshog40 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I'm pretty sure it got the star from being close to PL. Also, besides the neck and cheek, looks clean. Thanks for showing. Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Ottobahn said: Please pardon my weird way of capturing the coin with the light source from my room. I think those are excellent images. Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Conder101 said: I think those are excellent images. Now I see why it got the star. Ottobahn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ottobahn Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 Some more pictures; just for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...