emcoinsplus Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 I have a coin from the HUPEN Providence of China. The date 1895-96. The Whitman Modern World Coins, states that the 1895 coin is extremely rare. My first question is how to date Chinese coins. They have a different dating system. Second if it is the rare one how do I determine the value to submit to NGC? My coin matches the KM#, and Y# 127
JKK Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 That's Hupeh. Before you put too much energy into it, my advice is put a magnet against it (through the mylar is fine). If it's attracted, you know it is the fake it kind of appears to be. (If it isn't, that doesn't make it real; it just rules out the crappier fakes.) For more information, you'll need to take it out and weigh it, give diameter, and get better photos. Yours are about as good as one could easily do through the mylar, but it'll take a look at them outside the mylar in order to try for a positive ID. As it is, the numbers are too muddied for easy examination.
Just Bob Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 Welcome to the forum. Although it looks quite "iffy" to me, I hope your coin is genuine, but, please be aware that these are heavily counterfeited, and can be bought directly from the forgers in China for $7-$8 apiece, including shipping.
Conder101 Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 It isn't a Y127, it's a Y125.1. Y 127 is a 1 dollar or 7 Mace 2 Cantereens. You have a 1 mace 4.1 Cantereens which is the 20 cent. And it doesn't have the Pen Sheng characters on either side of the dragon that would indicate the rare 1894 issue (Y 125). Even if it was the one dollar it doesn't have the Pen Sheng so it wouldn't be Y127..