powermad5000 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Currently for 1 day-22 hours left, there are two individual 2 cent pieces up for auction on eBay by seller north-east-auctions. These are "perfect" pieces in red and I believe both to be counterfeit. If legit, these should sell for $1000+. There is an 1864 and and 1865. On both, there is misshapen numbers in the dates as well as "piles" of metal near the numbers. On the 1864, I noticed the dot under the shield is crooked. I noticed the denticles are misshapen and not sharp in some sections as should be on a "perfect" piece. Some of the denticles are more like "dots". On the 1865, there is the same issue with the denticles. The 6 is severely misshapen and the 5 is a "cross" between a plain and a fancy 5. There are two lumps of metal next to the 8. I noticed a lack of detail in IN. I noticed the shape of ST in TRUST does not seem to share the same shape as others I viewed while researching it. The dot under the shield is the same crooked dot as the 1864. What are the chances also that the same seller has two "perfect" two cent pieces a year apart??? For pieces that would be that high of a grade, I should not find the issues I am finding on these. I messaged the seller as to what the weight of the coins are, and as expected, I got no response. I wonder if NGC reads these and takes a look into it.... Edited December 11, 2020 by powermad5000 add photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, powermad5000 said: Currently for 1 day-22 hours left, there are two individual 2 cent pieces up for auction on eBay by seller north-east-auctions. These are "perfect" pieces in red and I believe both to be counterfeit. If legit, these should sell for $1000+. There is an 1864 and and 1865. On both, there is misshapen numbers in the dates as well as "piles" of metal near the numbers. On the 1864, I noticed the dot under the shield is crooked. I noticed the denticles are misshapen and not sharp in some sections as should be on a "perfect" piece. Some of the denticles are more like "dots". On the 1865, there is the same issue with the denticles. The 6 is severely misshapen and the 5 is a "cross" between a plain and a fancy 5. There are two lumps of metal next to the 8. I noticed a lack of detail in IN. I noticed the shape of ST in TRUST does not seem to share the same shape as others I viewed while researching it. The dot under the shield is the same crooked dot as the 1864. What are the chances also that the same seller has two "perfect" two cent pieces a year apart??? For pieces that would be that high of a grade, I should not find the issues I am finding on these. I messaged the seller as to what the weight of the coins are, and as expected, I got no response. I wonder if NGC reads these and takes a look into it.... Can you provide a link to the site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Hi Bob. I don't like to provide links and in this case, you would not need a link. You can go to the eBay home page and search for these in the search box and find them quite easily. They almost stick out like a sore thumb when you scroll through the offerings on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 I also just noticed the misshapen lines in the shield on both examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
