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Low class redneck dealer etiquette.

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I really don't know where this evolved(devolved?) but dealer manners and etiquette are from the toilet swamp for the most part nowadays. A post from the PCGS forum got me thinking. Where in the world do dealers get the idea that throwing coins, raw or slabbed, back and forth while doing business is a good thing? I've seen way too many folks quote a price and throw the coin at you or on the showcase. How about those dealers who won't acknowledge your presence unless you say something, like it's some kind of mind game of who will break down first. I remember some dealers with great manners when they started, only to devolve into showmanship and really bad manners as they progressed in the business. One dealer from Nevada who started out in the business would always say please and thank you. Then, I saw him at the Reno show. He must have gained 200 pounds and would grunt alot. I watched him ask quotes from a very well mannered dealer, only to get his coins thrown back at him. Howabout the dealers who have done business with over the years, ignore you at a show unless you whip out a wad of cash. Is this common experience for others?

 

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Don't know about any but one dealer here in Vegas, the biggest shop here. Went there for some opinions of raw proof Jeffersons. Wanted to know if they thought they (any/all) were worth submitting. This was quite awhile ago before I knew the good from the bad (and was the cause for me to find out on my own).

 

I politely approached a counter where there was a place to lay them out in a felt tray. One of the employees came over and asked if I needed help and I asked if he would peruse my coins for an opinion as to worth slabbing. He asked why I wanted to get them slabbed and I told him "so I can sell them on eBay". Must have hit a nerve because he roughly put my Jeffs back in the tube I had and said, "We don't do estimates for free". Then he turned and walked away, leaving me standing there (not for long tho, I took the hint). Found out later the guy was the owner! Never been back.

 

Been to two shows here, one downtown at the Plaza and another held at Mandalay Bay. Both times, I had a pleasurable experience from all behind the tables I talked to. Spent an hour with an older gentleman gabbing with a seller, both outside-affiliatelinksnotallowed Talked about lots of things and both quite friendly.

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There are several dealers that I am familiar with that have rubbed me wrong in the past. Of course, they're shysters to the max or they ignore you because they never have anything worth buying so I never have bought from them. Recently, I stopped by to talk with a dealer that I usually talk to and he simply ignored me, oh well. I pass up all them other dealers as well as I know that I want nothing to do with. I'll be checking the coins at the tables after table and look up every so often to check who has the next table and when I see one of those scumbags tables next in line, I'll slowly walk by his table, won't even look at his coins but I will take a look at the guy and he'll see me walk by and stop at the next table to look. I never forget a face. I'm very happy to see many dealers but I do without the scumbags who have treated me likewise. Whether or not they remember me and I know a few remember me. Sorry, we can't do business!

 

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WOW Truth, you are so right! thumbsup2.gif

 

I am not a very meek person, but I have gotten to the point where I don't go to shows anymore as I do not feel the least bit comfortable approaching a table...too many times ignored or talked down to when I ask questions. And the throwing the coins thing...Do these clowns think that is cool? I had one particularly big local (*^^&**)&^ dealer throw coins at me two years ago as he quoted prices...I picked each one up and tossed it back as I answered "NO, NO, NO..." The amazing part was he got mad! frustrated.gif

 

I almost deal exclusively via the internet now with a small reputable group of dealers in the certified market. (Reputable here is defined as dealers whom I have purchase from before and not had to return item) The small amount of raw stuff I need to fill Dancos I get from a great guy to talk with at a large local flea market...may cost a little more, but no S&H $ or bad attitudes. thumbsup2.gif

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what does redneck have to do with all of this? I am Southern born and Southern bred and proud to be a redneck. American by birth and Southern by the grace of God.

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One dealer from Nevada who started out in the business would always say please and thank you. Then, I saw him at the Reno show. He must have gained 200 pounds and would grunt alot. I watched him ask quotes from a very well mannered dealer, only to get his coins thrown back at him. Howabout the dealers who have done business with over the years, ignore you at a show unless you whip out a wad of cash. Is this common experience for others?

 

Rant over.

 

 

 

TRUTH

 

if it's the dealer that I'm thinking of he's pretty rude to people in his shop too if they ask questions.

I've lived in Reno for the last 10 years and I won't do business with any of the dealers in town. most of them offer you a 1/3 to 1/2 of bid if you're selling, yet they an arm and leg for items they have.

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what does redneck have to do with all of this? I am Southern born and Southern bred and proud to be a redneck. American by birth and Southern by the grace of God.

 

Well, me too. I was born in NW Arkansas and the hospital I was born in is now a motel.

 

You need to understand that "redneck" is a generic term. I use it quite often myself and the first Easley came to Virginia in 1680, then to Tennessee in 1787 and to Arkansas in 1850. I grew up in Tulsa, OK but it was only 120 miles from relatives.

 

I think the more appropriate term is a "good ole boy". To me that is a good thing. Just good southern people with values and morals. A redneck carries more of a "whitetrash" connotation.

 

I know that it is semantics but I stick by it! 893whatthe.gif

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My second wife was a southerner from rural Florida and our daughter was born in and partially raised in Georgia. I think that Southerners are just like anyone else. There are good ones and bad ones. I know many southern people that I count among my best friends.

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My second wife was a southerner from rural Florida and our daughter was born in and partially raised in Georgia. I think that Southerners are just like anyone else. There are good ones and bad ones. I know many southern people that I count among my best friends.

 

 

Florida is not part of "The South". It is just, well, Florida. It is not like any other southern state. I lived in Florida so I can speak from experience.

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I am a proud, born and bred Georgia Redneck. 893applaud-thumb.gif Truth wasn't knocking us. Redneck is a term about how we play. acclaim.gif It's a term used to describe our strong convictions. We could play redneck games all day long but come supper time you entered your Mama's kitchen with respect and manners. Truth was simply stating that a business man was unfair and disrepectful. This said business man lacked the southern gentleman ethics. Speaking of Rednecks....

 

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I sure learned a lot about southerners from this thread. Of course, this was a coin post.

 

Question: If a Yankee moves to the South, can he become a southern redneck? Or do you have to be born in the South to get the title? 893scratchchin-thumb.gif Are there secret codes and handshakes that will expose a Yankee?

 

 

 

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My second wife was a southerner from rural Florida and our daughter was born in and partially raised in Georgia. I think that Southerners are just like anyone else. There are good ones and bad ones. I know many southern people that I count among my best friends.

 

And I hope that I'm one of 'em, Charlie! thumbsup2.gif

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I have a sign in my yard that says "Yankees, now that you have seen the South, turn around and go back home."

 

Exactly! A yankee will always be a yankee and it would take divine intervention to change that!! wink.gif

 

However, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont are all eligible to become honorary rednecks since they are somewhat set apart from complete and total yankiness. thumbsup2.gif

 

P.S. Wooopig, Florida's panhandle is just as southern as Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi.

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Now, don't go knockin' the Yankees like that! Here, in Florida, we get them every year from December to April. We politely call them "snowbirds" and they spend a lot of money in our state. It's true, our highways get clogged with tourists driving 20 mph while they try to get pictures of palm trees and pelicans on the fly, and you can always be assured of hearing one of them say, "That's not the way we do it back home." Well, that's true, we don't do things like they do back home. But, when we finally get to let go a big sigh of relief as they migrate north, we can always relish the fact that they went home broke.

 

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Native Floridians who are not from the tourist areas and coastal towns, who were born before 1950, who speak with a southern accent are southerners. Take my word for it. They speak, act and think just like many other southerners. I was married to one and believe me, she was southern. You live in the Florida urban culture of the present, but rural Florida was part of the south 50 years ago and parts of the state still are.

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I sure learned a lot about southerners from this thread. Of course, this was a coin post.

 

That's what you get when you confuse a redneck!

 

Question: If a Yankee moves to the South, can he become a southern redneck? Or do you have to be born in the South to get the title? 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

A redneck will always regard a Yankee as an inferior species because he never learns to spell words incorrectly. I was born in Maryland and am considered a southerner, but because of my upbringing in close proximity to the Yankee border, I learned how to spell words correctly. That, unfortunately, has been my biggest detractor and I am still viewed by many rednecks with suspicion.

 

Are there secret codes and handshakes that will expose a Yankee?

 

SHHHHHH! The KKK may be lurking nearby.

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

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