1 Dollar 1853-c liberty head - real or fake 0

[goldcoinsnew]

Hello All,

I've an opportunity to buy a 1 Dollar 1853-C liberty head, but I'm not sure it's no fake.

What do you think?

Thanks

[Greenstang]

It's probably real but can't say for sure from such small pictures.

Please crop your pictures and properly orient them. We only need pictures of the coin in question.  Also do NOT hold them in your hands! I cringe every time I see that, especially with gold coins.

[goldcoinsnew]

Thank for your response. I'll try to crop the pictures, it's the seller's hand not mine 

[Just Bob]

Gold dollars from the early 1850s are known for being weakly struck, so even though the bow on the bottom of the wreath is missing details, that is not a sure sign of a counterfeit. The mint mark, however, does look to be considerably smaller than a normal "C", at least in that picture.

I don't trust myself or very many sellers enough to buy thousand dollar coins raw. I would want the assurance of a reputable third party grader.

[Greenstang]

What is the seller asking for it?

Depending on the grade, that could be a $2000.00 coin

[goldcoinsnew]

7 hours ago, Greenstang said:

What is the seller asking for it?

Depending on the grade, that could be a $2000.00 coin

Thanks again, the seller is asking for 170 euro.

[Greenstang]

Is asking 170 euros.

That in itself is enough reason to stay away from it.

Nobody is going to sell a legitimate coin worth around $2000.00 for about $190.00. As Just Bob stated, unless a gold coin it's certified or you are buying from a reputable dealer, stay away from it.

 

[goldcoinsnew]

Thank you all very much!

I probably asked the guy to many questions, so today he told me that he already sold the coin.

Great weekend.

[Just Bob]

I need to modify/correct my above post.

I did some reading about this coin last night, and I discovered that there were two different mint marks used on Charlotte dollars in 1853: the large mint mark (pictured below), and another one that Breen called "normal." I am not sure if he was referring to the smaller mint mark used prior to 1852, or if it was a different one. After going through dozens of auction archives, I can not find an example that matches the OP's coin .All I found looked like this example:

 

If anyone can find an1853-C dollar with a different mint mark, I would like to see what it looks like.

 

 

Edited January 17, 2020 by Just Bob

[kbbpll]

I guess we all know now that it was fake. Not even a good one if you look closely.

[JKK]

Here's another cue: he was pawing it with his fingers to begin with. If it had been real, and he had been certain of that, he would have sent it for grading himself. Just the way he was presenting the whole thing was unlike the way a respectable dealer would sell such an item. A sane dealer would not risk any potential negative effects on a real one. A dealer in cheats and counterfeits counts upon lack of knowledge, and isn't out much money, so why go to the trouble?

[goldcoinsnew]

Thank you for your responses, I really appreciate it, and do feel good that I didn't buy that coin. 

Great weekend all